turbo?? general info

[stock_vl]

alright... we all dream of one....
just wanting to know somethings.... obviously i plan to get one like everybody else! and just want some background info..

the stock turbo engine put out 140kw? that correct?
also how many psi does the stock turbo's run on?
what is a safe psi to run them on? -everyday use?
-pushing it to the limits?
if pushed heaps what are the weakst components of the turbo (what would fark up first??)

rb26et head (what ever they are) put onto a rb30
is it possible to run it as a turbo? or would the block not be able to take pressure?

umm..... the difference's between the turbo and stock?
eg. cam's? piston's? the block the same? they acid dipped (im not sure if thats the correct term but people speak of dipping in acid or a chemical)
umm... if there is a comparison website with all info it would be greatly appreciated!!

[Bax]

alright... we all dream of one....
just wanting to know somethings.... obviously i plan to get one like everybody else! and just want some background info..

the stock turbo engine put out 140kw? that correct?
also how many psi does the stock turbo's run on?
what is a safe psi to run them on? -everyday use?
-pushing it to the limits?
if pushed heaps what are the weakst components of the turbo (what would fark up first??)

rb26et head (what ever they are) put onto a rb30
is it possible to run it as a turbo? or would the block not be able to take pressure?

umm..... the difference's between the turbo and stock?
eg. cam's? piston's? the block the same? they acid dipped (im not sure if thats the correct term but people speak of dipping in acid or a chemical)
umm... if there is a comparison website with all info it would be greatly appreciated!!

The turbo engine puts out 150fwkw. Which equates to 150hp at the rear wheels, which isn't entirely that much more then an rb30e.

Stock boost level is 6, 7 psi I believe.
Max personally is around 10-12 psi.. You can get more, but thats being safe.

Rb26Det head. What do you want to know, very expensive and not worth the money unless your insanely keen on power.

Difference between turbo and non turbo. Pistons, obviously, lower compression in the turbo. Cam in the turbo allows more exhaust, but apart from that, same block, same head, etc.

Acid dipping moreso is cleaning to me, doesn't mean much more.

[DIXIE]

yeah stock boost is 6psi.. i run 12 on mine on high boost, but you should only do this once uve put a decent exhaust and cooler...
although i know guys who have run 18 - 20 psi without a cooler... but thats just insane.
an rb26et head is the head off a skyline engine (rb26dett) is the twinturbo gtr engine... if u wanna go all out, just turn ur vl into a gtr.. it'll be awesome
(as TTJET has shown us...)

just get a cooler, something like a 600 X 300 X 75 bar + plate job, and a 3" exhaust from the turbo back with a hiflow cat, up the boost to 12, and u'll be flying...
then what u wanna do is hiflow your t3...

personally, id stay away from a t4 or bigger, because the bigger the turbo, the bigger the lag.

unless u wanna jam a t66 on there and have turbo lag up to 5500rpm, and then boost spike up to 18 pounds and go sideways at 200kph... up to you

[VLCT87]

hey i got a calais turbo had it for bout 7 months and will never look back awsome car

[VLCT87]

u can put a TO4 and just put a TO3 compresser on it but im not sure if u need to do any mods to make them join that way it spools up quicker and u still have the ability to wind up the boost more=more fun

[stock_vl]

anybody know of the mods that i would need to do the T04 with T03 compresser??

and what exactly do you mean by the compresser? (sorry about my small mind....)
thanks heaps boys!

[VLCT87]

TO3 exhaust housing and TO4 compressor i mean

[DIXIE]

that creates a t03/04 hybrid turbo.. i still recon a cheaper/easier way is to hiflow ur existing t03...

[stock_vl]

ok i understand what yous are on about now with T03/t04 compressor!

alright..
now for me to have a "turbo" doesnt matter how crap it is!!
lol.... simple fact i live and play soccer with 24328904328490324 itilians and im getting asked 24/7 is it a turbo

so for me to turbo my ride... (im thinking of buying a reconditioned rb30 of ebay) i found these for like $200 reconditioned... (prob jsut new seals and honed?)

but yeah... back to point..

i change pistons and cam?

that is really all i need yeah?

i put on the turbo

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/TamKO-T3-T4-T...QQcmdZViewItem

tell me if thats the correct one plz... and what price i could and should get them for!

then.. boost control? yeah? or just a original automatic turbo ecu.

i think thats right?

anthing else... pipe work would be fairly minimul... lol. sisters b/f works as a welder etc... he can whip me up some povo looking metal.. it dont need to look good...

also id have to get a blow off velve so the boys cream in there pants.

these simply come out of the turbo pipe? yeah?:|

(im really simple and have bairly even looked at a turbo diagram so sorry for stupidity)

[vlrad]

Thinking for first one it would be a good idea to have an off the shelf turbo calais - get to know about them and then tinker with some mix and match.

In the process of selling my na - would like a turbo calais - what the going rate these days - in 1995 they where 14k

[stock_vl]

i found vl berlina with a stock turbo for 4,300 somewhere in the trading post i dunno if its sold yet.

but like i dont see the point anymore..

i can build my own for close to $600 i think.....

turbo calais you could prob find a cheap one for 7?

i recon i could build one for cheaper and sell it to some lil street punk for more then what i have paid!!

easy..... i live taking advantage of stupid ppl as it has happened to me alll my life =) lol.

still would love to know if what i asked earlier is all correct!

[Bax]

a turbo calais, 6k upwards.. up to about 25 if you want an immac show condition one.

as for the turbo, well you can buy the turbo, then you need the necessary inlet piping, exhaust manifold, injectors, ecu, upgrade the brakes, gearbox.

its not as cheap as you think. Especially if your planning on a bigger turbo etc.

Blow off valves go on the inlet, the last pipe before the throttle body.

[stock_vl]

aghh... is it nessacery to upgrade breaks?? like tottaly!

also aghh.... i can only seem to find rb25ett and rb25et exhaust manifolds!! damnit....

umm i think they were right.. they were both rb25..... one twin and other single

umm... would either of those work?

gearbox needs to be upgraded?:|

couldnt i just drive them until they give out?:|

like with the T03/T04 would it be giving my a great amount of boost etc?:|

[Bax]

How much boost do you want to run? It'd give you a fair kick.

Your looking at manifolds for rb25? Didn't you want to go the rb30 head?

[stock_vl]

i had seen lots of rb25 manifolds but havent seen any rb30 ones i will keep looking!

umm well boost would be ran real high... as i wouldnt be expecting it to!

i really just want the cheapst possible turbo out there!! lol.. how stoogy!

turbo, piping, pistons, ecu, manifold

thats all im looking at doing. ooh and the blow off if i belt a bum for some more money or something.....

but yeh i have time to do this!!
could turn out been a huge project yet!
like, we cant drive turbo's or anything high powered in nsw until full lisence which is 3 years!
im thinking i will end up pretending i moved to victoria when im 18 and just get full lisence there =) its only 15 meters away! but yeh.... this turbo will sit in the shed and be built very slowly and good

or im thinking chuck together cheapst turbo possible tell some kid its turbo sell it to him for 6,000 or so and make my moneys worth =)

boost would be ran sooo damn low!
i think u said stock vlt's ran at like 7 and for high it was 12?

thats heaps... more then what im looking for!

[Bax]

Stock turbo is 7psi. But that gets boosted quite easily.

Once the bug bites you, you will want more.

1500 for a to3 and all the remaining parts required. I'd definately do the brakes, n/a stuff is terrible already. The manual gearbox may last, the auto would slowly die.

[stock_vl]

alright. his a little bit of quik info i have found.

reconditioned rb30 $200-$300 (will sit in shed on frame where i will begin work)
t03/t04 housing $400ish
auto ecu vl turbo = $80 (it run's on 7psi? or do i needa boost control aswell??)
exhaust manifold $300

extra's = blow off =$150ish



just curious but the standard turbo ecu runs the psi at 7?

for me to put hit a switch or run turbo at say 13psi. umm i think at boost or what ever. do i needa boost control?

[Bax]

Just a bleed valve and a boost gauge would for that.

The ecu has nothing to do with what level the boost runs at.

Reconditioned what now? Rb30. Non turbo? If your going to run high compression that'd be fine I guess. But if your going to convert to turbo spec pistons your wasting money there.

Still missing a fair few things. Your looking at 1000 minimum. 1500 average.

[VLVTCrAzY]

just bought vl wanting to put full exaust and extractors..but also a turbo not to sure as i have only been dealing with superchagers on my vt ne info would be sweet..also got 10g to spend on the cars engine and exaust systsem neoen wanna ahve fun with my oney and help out with ideas

[VLCT87]

if wanting to turbo ya RB30 u should have just got a standard turbo motor and spend money on it thats wat im doin with my calias turbo, full rebuild bigger turbo, forged internals etc

[stock_vl]

that seems to be pointless form what i understand i read that people are get 230rwkw with the rb30 block but changes to cam's pistions like all the head and yeah.....

so what i cant understand is why i would lash out extra dollers to buy a turbo engine that isnt running then i would have to replace the exact same parts....

get my drift? although i wouldnt mind getting a shell of a 5.0L or an old turbo.

the turbo's had bigger breaks? and also 5.0L had bigger breaks?

[Bax]

You've got a point to an extent, I wouldn't replace things when I got a second hand rb30et, I'd have to make sure it was a good condition engine, compression checks, just make sure its healthy before you buy it. And not worry too much about replacing.

Depends how you wanna do it, I'm buying a block/head and starting fresh. Putting all my accessories on it.

Turbo's and v8's had bigger brakes and 28 spline diffs.

[stock_vl]

these breaks and diffs can be simply changed over? yeah?

deffinitly true that..... need to make sure the engine is in good condition... pressure tested etc yes!

[Dilz]

whats the most easyiest and cheapest way i wanna run at least 15psi and like 7psi daylie...

[GH05T]

someone asked could they drive the turbo without an upgraded breaks, yeah.. u can also drive a car with no brakes.. not a top ideah though

and as for running the stock grarbox into the ground. why not take it out b4 blowing it which u probly will, and sell it for cash to get the upgraded one?? and we all know when u upgrade to a turbs ur not about tpo just put around softly.. lol