just got an 86 VL ?? got issues man ...

[crappyVL]

it is sluggish i guess when has been drivin for a lil wile and kinda hard to start doesnt prime right ,, new parts : radiator , distr, i think thats it . dont know mutch will have more info when i get it today any help will be great !!! any ideas ???

[detox_nath83]

few things we need more info though....
Sluggish could be a few problems,Plugs/Leads, Blocked fuel filter, Dirty Throttle body and intake runners, Vacuum leaks, Failing AFM, Runnning Rich, Blocked Air Filter, Crappy/old fuel
Welcome to Just Commodores man.

[Critical Jim]

Had this problem back in the day with my VL, gutless, 200klm to a tank of fuel.

Took it to Ultra Tune, there response was it's running great, but we changed our spark plugs for good measure even though you did ask us.

Holden mechanic found the problem in about 10 min, not entirly sure what the problem was, something about the distributor being mis-aligned or something.

Felt like a new car after that.

[crappyVL]

hey thanks guys , i am picking the car up today and i will have more info up i am going to change the plug , oil, air filter and chekc all the vacume lines and some other things i will get back to you ...!!!

[crappyVL]

well got it home , the problem is , hard to start sounds like it is not gettin fuel , and wile driving putting your foot down still downshifts but it is like a slugg lol ..new massairflow sensor , distributer , plugs and wires . thw owner i got it from says it is the pre fuel pump ..

[detox_nath83]

Vl's have 2 pumps the Inertia (intank Pump sitting in the swirlpot) and the highflow pump (external sitting at the front of tank near diff.
if the pump was starting to fail this could cause this problem as the car is starving for fuel..
I would try another inertia then

[Paiste402]

timing could be way retarded, my EB was the same, a ####ing slug. Got out the timing gun and advanced that sucker and shes a rocket ship. Also a new cap, leads and plugs dont go astray since they gotta be done sometime. Dont over do it unless u like holes in ur pistons lol

[crappyVL]

ok the timing helped , but tonight i drove it and it died lmao , it was raining like hell and i had to drive it through a ridge overflowing, but it wasnt too deep,
got it running aventually after like 25 min after sitting 6 meters after the bridge . drove for about half K then died again , the drove home fine but still with a stutter ,
just baught Bosch racing plugs and plugs allso bosch platnum pluss ...will be working on the back fuel pump and check the interior , i have an extra engine so blowing it
really isnt a problem ....not that i wana blow it . Thanks all of u for the advice !!!

[Nackerz]

Could be the crank angle sensor too mate!

[crappyVL]

yea just thought of that thanks !!!

[Nackerz]

No worries champ, Yeah they are a pain in the arse!

[detox_nath83]

bit like u hey Nackerz :P?????????

[Darren_L]

check the cam timing as well. Often when people put a belt on they don't line the marks up properly
should be able to check the fuel pumps by throwing a fuel pressure gauge on

[crappyVL]

ran ok tonight when i retarted the timing .. still got a damn studder so i have 2 different coils to choose from to putt on ..i am goin through the list guys thanks

[Nackerz]

bit like u hey Nackerz :P?????????

lol I duno bout that think its the other way round :P

[crappyVL]

so the car starts off fine , then in the middle of gaining speed it stutters like a tractor /?///?? dont know wats going on
new parts : spark plugs , leads , coil , cap is not that bad . it runs good but then catching speed runs like shit for a second . and is chewing fuel like no other

[detox_nath83]

speed/Higher rev is mainly Pump Failing as car is starving for fuel or Fuel filter Blocked.
Set timing to 15 Degrees Btdc This is standard
U can advance it to 18 ish be carefull may ping use Premium Fuel

[Jacko84]

crank angle sensor

[detox_nath83]

When u changed Dizzy did u have another CAS or did u use the one that was already on the car??

[Nackerz]

aslo check your leads are on the right cylinders, I have done this before, but only because i spent all day changing motors over and was tired and shit when it came time to do the dizzy, started and ran but like it was missing and then thought oh well check it 2moz. checked it and had 5 an 6 lead on the wrong one on the dizzy cap haha my bad

[crappyVL]

no man i havent changed the CAS yet , that shall be monday i guess ...lol , oh and it chews the crap out of fuel too , dont know why

[*uwishn*]

^it is auto and 22years old and probably is a tired engine,lol........

[detox_nath83]

Well the CAS is inside the Dizzy man.. so if u changed over the Dizzy u have changed the CAS then which could have been a dodge one
Try another CAS
Easy to change Look in my Sig on the How to Below

Rich could be a few things...
Coolant Temp Sensor
O2 Sensor
Blocked Air filter
Vacuum Leak
AFM setting out of Spec
Leaking Injector('s)

[crappyVL]

ok i have checked allot of things allready on the fuel issue , injecters dont leak, new air filter , and ma car shows temp , but i have never seen it get to a high temp at all ,
drove the car last night , hooned it around a bit , seemed fine . went home turned it off let it sit for maybe 20min , and went to go start it and it runs like crap so i floor it give it sum wat ever and then it was right ....ran fine after that , and sometimes it acts like it is out of fuel too ...

[muffman001]

I had roughly same problem with my old vl altho myne blew more smoke than a fully loaded wood burning train LOL but turned out computer screw wasnt adjusted back to its orignal poz and the main throttal body plastic intake had a hose connected to the top of the rocket cover it had a FINE crack in it that small i could barly see it my fault i cracked it when changing sparkplugs .. when car warmed up it would make the rubber soft and seemed to make a better seal also when i would rev it it would cause the split to open throw out the airflow meater reading and stutter like crazy untill i got past 2000rpm n she would kick into gear with a mighty black cloud behind her LOL well worth looking into i replaced hose with some garden hose and 2 clamps Stuttering was fixed and yea it feels like a fuel shortage because airflow meater is reading the amount being sucked threw the front of the airfilter and the crack was back up neer throttal body n was sucking more air from there n airflow readings would stay rougly the same hence not enough fuel i would be replacing some hoses before ya spend more $ hope it helps