im attempting to do a v6 3800 conversion to my vl has dose any one know anything about this or knows some one who has done this sorta running into problems just thinking about doing this
no please dont
why not its alot cheepa than doing a rb 30 de conversion and i dont want any turbos i want na untill my v8 is ready
your prepared to spend a few thousand just to get what 5rwkw more then an rb30?its your money thoe and g/l with it
Why not just put a decent ECU in it, throw a cam in and give it a good tune? Probably want an aftermarket ecu for a eco/buick conversion anyway.
Definitely keep your RB30, A v6 is a good option when replacing a a worn out 202 ect but RB30s are just so much better made and engineered you would be crazy to do it. Plus extra HP is far more easily made out of a RB30 then a V6.
Rb30 n/a over buick 3800 V6 or even Ecotec v6 anyday. Also depending on your state you need a engineers certificate, New k frame,New gearbox mounts,new wiring loom, possibly new steering rack,custom tail shaft, plus more. Add up the money its not worth it you may aswell buy a vn, Or wait until you want to drop a v8 in it even then its easier to get a vk v8 k frame.
Rb30n/a do your re-search can be a really fun motor to have in the long run if you do the right mods and they s**t all over the other v6's in reliability and fuel economy. Plus they sound good too with a good exhaust system and cam they don't sound tiny like a v6.
Modifying a car is like a drug once you start you cannot stop
Holdens if your not in one your behind one
I dont think they are any more reliable then a V6 but if you thrash both the V6 will blow up first.
More reliable because they don't spin bearings easely and if you give them a little bit off too much fun they will start to rattle. Also sump gaskets go very often and most off them these days need water pumps and thermostat's done all the time, Don't get me wrong besides that there a brilliant motor if there low kay and well maintained, With head work and a cam and a few other goodies they go hard too. Shame the autos are weak as ####. Manual's however are alot off fun with the v6. A few cases off heads popping gaskets here and there but not as many as the vl motors. (however the rb30 vl motors probably pop heads due to to much boost or ancient head gasket or poor service history or some times head bolts are the cause off it)
Rb30 on the other hand i haven't seen as many sump gasket leaks as the v6's and they don't rattle unless your tappets need some attention. Biggest down side to them is the fact you have a timing belt which usually needs attention after you give them plenty off s**t. But if you get your head gasket re-done you may aswell get a performance spec timing belt rather then a standard one. Only $15 or $20 more but worth it. Most rb30's fail with crank angle sensors and O2 sensors and afm that i have seen but that could happen with the v6.
End off the day its what motor you preffer but in my opinion a V6 conversion is a waste off coin. Money i would rather spend on making the N/a really fly.
Modifying a car is like a drug once you start you cannot stop
Holdens if your not in one your behind one
Pointless to replace a Japanese Race Breed motor with an American boat anchor. After market support for the RB30 is amazing compared to the buick 6's.
(sik_dose )
^^^^f**k**g well said mate ; )
Modifying a car is like a drug once you start you cannot stop
Holdens if your not in one your behind one
yeah after i looked into it all it was gunna cost more than getting hold of a rb25 non turbo head wich is really hard to find the reason i was going to do this is cuz the top half of my rb is ####ed after recently trying to remove my intake manifold i have found out some d head has actually glurd my engin togeathor not happy
ummm sik dose most of the after market parts i have found for the rb30 are related to the turbo i dont want a turbo