Installing Fromt 4" Speakers into Dash

[87RB30VL]

Okay I did a google search before starting this thread, and found that you remove the air vents, unscrew some screws and wham bam thank you Jan, but as for the wiring of new speakers to the head unit, is there any easy way of running the wires to the back of the head unit [In stock center console position] without removing the whole dash?

The previous owner installed a new head unit [Or had it installed, I should say, by a guy who did a pretty tidy job] but the front speakers don't work, and I'm fairly certain it's because they either weren't wired up, or they're blown. I'm thinking that they weren't wired up, but I miss having a bit of sound in the front because when I have people in the back, I have to turn my radio pretty low otherwise it's too loud for them, which means I can't hear it.

So, any thoughts on this matter? I was going to post this into the wiring/electrical thread, but because it relates mainly to getting to the speakers, I thought I'd try here first since you guys have probably pulled more dashes than I can count!

cheers!

[wraith]

To be honest really the easiest way is to just put some 6 inch speakers in the doors. 4 inch speakers are just crap.

[87RB30VL]

I don't really wanna' cut up my door cards, though I had considered 6's in the fronts, or fabricating some moulds for 6" speakers in the kicker panels next to the passenger and driver foot wells

[bj42turbo]

I am trying to get a responce on the VN/VP threads re 4inch speakers.............Seems that most have a one tracked mind and just say 4 inch are crap and just fit 6 inch in the doors.......very frustrating, some people dont want to hack up door cards and would would rather to keep there cars as they came form the factory..

Dazz

[wraith]

Nothing to do with one track mind. 4 inch was a great size because the speaker could be made cheap and because it fit in that particular space. If you want any semblance of sound quality you will not use them. I can see where your coming from however if you plan on playing any music loud then 4 inches will just not suit your application. If you have the skills you can make the VR/VS door pockets look factory. Then you open your self up to a wide range of speakers and have some extra storage space as an added bonus.

[bj42turbo]

Nothing to do with one track mind. 4 inch was a great size because the speaker could be made cheap and because it fit in that particular space. If you want any semblance of sound quality you will not use them. I can see where your coming from however if you plan on playing any music loud then 4 inches will just not suit your application. If you have the skills you can make the VR/VS door pockets look factory. Then you open your self up to a wide range of speakers and have some extra storage space as an added bonus.

Is the issue with 4inchs are no good "loud" as this dosn't bother me so much, just want a crisper sound if that makes sence...

Dazz

[wraith]

As long as your not going too loud they shouuuld be ok but yeah if a set of focal 4 inch splits can't sound good I don't think anything else will.

[87RB30VL]

Will they even add anything to the sound? Like, if you're running 6x9's in the rear, and 4" in the front, wouldn't the 6x9's take most of the sound anyway, and the 4"'s would "even" it out, if you know what I mean?

[wraith]

They will add to the sound for sure but with the 6x9's running off the headunit I can see the fronts getting distorted from being pushed to far.

[RobboVl]

Will they even add anything to the sound? Like, if you're running 6x9's in the rear, and 4" in the front, wouldn't the 6x9's take most of the sound anyway, and the 4"'s would "even" it out, if you know what I mean?

i have sony 4'' in the front and kicker 6x9s in the back and they do exactly that.. ( even out the sound )
i was playing around with the head unit and turned of the front ones and its deffinatly worth having them in..

as for installing them i can't help as i had them installed by someone else..

[juiceie vh sle]

just get something like a coat hanger and bend it out straight then stick it down from the top through the speaker hole(speaker removed of coarse) untill you can see it underneath the dash then just use electrical tape and stick your speaker wire to the coat hanger and pull it back out the top bringing the speaker wire with it.

[87RB30VL]

Cheers for the replies guys!