v8 V Turbo
Theres a strong possibility that i might find myself in possession of a large dose of greenery due to dodgey as mechanics, smashed pistons and a wonderful word... warranty..... this being said the RB30 is dead...
I dont know whether to bother with another turbo engine but the RB25 does appeal to me but im stuck.....
The RB25 is a pretty good engine....
but v8's (SUPERCHARGED!!!!!!) are just the tits....
so what do i do? if you guys could throw some pro's and con's my way id be stoked
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Aint no family cruiser!!!
i'd prefer the s/c 8 over the turbo, i'd rather listen to the whine and rumble of the supercharged v8 than a BOV on a turbo 6... depends on funds too
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5.0 ltr in a vl standard plus the noise thay make cant beat an eight
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dude, chev it! but just my humble opinion
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nothing against a chev but a VL modification=nil with a holdenOriginally Posted by coolngroovy
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go a rb26dett
twin turbo. will be wicked
but costly
my web sitestuff on the XF throttle body conversion, calais interior and lots of other junk!
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witch way u go wih a 5.0 expect neddys and lots of them (forget the asmatic jap job) 410kw 549hp plus no mod needed 4 the VL
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Any efi 8 - supercharged would be awesome.
I wouldn't stick with the carby.
As far as turbo's though you can build up a monster bottom end, then have some cheap bolt ons. Then when the time comes you just upgrade the bolt ons and zoom.
thanks guys, definatley leaning towards an 8 i think theres just too much problems associated with a turbo engine... id probably pull better efficency out of a v8 anyway and they also just sound awesome
dropping a V8 in what would need to be done in terms of engine mounts and fuel systems... i would be better off trying to find a V8 VN half-cut so i can have the box aswell... crossmember's another thing to worry about and ofcoarse brakes is that everything covered or is there more?
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fuel lines will b ok (depends on bhp you want otherwise holley blue 1/2")crossmember should b ok (check with other members) engine/gearbox combo may b problem though, tail shaft
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the fastest street legal vl's are turbo's. V8 would use more petreol. V8's sound better. But if your cars a turbo you have less work to do than converting to v8. you can get a half-cut with everything you'd need. if you get an rb 25/26 they can handle lots of power without having to do internal mods.
Though i reckon v8's do better burnouts.
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ill always prefer the V8, and agree with bex, a carby fed beast is fun but not worth the conversion. heres a few things i ripped from another site, for interests sake...
First of all is a list of parts that you will need. This assumes you have a complete V8 EFI Engine.
# EFI Tank. Easily sourced from 6 cylinder VL. (EFI tank has larger return line over carby tank and breather and return assemblies are different.)
# EFI Lines. Again, easily sourced from a 6 cylinder VL. Return line is larger on EFI models.
# High Pressure EFI Fuel Pump. A VL Turbo or VN V8 is ideal, but 6 cylinder ones work just fine for standard V8.
# High Pressure Power steering line from Late Model EFI V8. This will fit straight into current Power Steering system with very little mods.
# EFI Fuel Filter. Also a Fuel Filter mount. VL 6 cylinder one is suggestion and again is easily obtainable from wrecked VL 6. Filters cost $12 from Holden.
# Approx 2 metres of High Pressure EFI Fuel Hose - 1/4 inch diameter
# EFI Fuel Hose Clamps
# Pipe cutter
# EFI V8 Heater hoses and two joiners. (see Finishing the Job for more detail)
# Air Box including rubber mounts and neck
# Rubber joiner hose from airbox to Throttle Body
# MAP (Manifold Abosulte Pressure) Sensor
# O2 (Oxygen) Sensor
# Relay signal from Selector (in automatic's) to Computer. This informs the computer when the car is in gear. Not compulsory though.
# Pulse generator placed in line in the speedo cable. Earlier models have cable driven speedo's but the computer needs a signal of the vehicles speed. This is a little device fitted to the cable and contains 3 wires, Power, Reference and Earth. Speak to an Automotive Instrument shop.
# VN Onwards Air Con Compressor & bracket, Alternator and Bracket and Power Steering Bracket. (Note: If you run a carby style manifold and throttle body, the A/C, P/S and Alternator all line up and will bolt up in the carby V8 locations, requiring no mods. If running the standard EFI Manifold, the throttle body will foul the Power Steering Pump meaning it will not fit, thus requiring the relocation of all ancilaries)
# VN Onwards Harmonic Balancer Pulley. This is the pulley that mounts on thr front of the Harmonic Balancer Pulley. This is needed if you run the EFI manifold and the ancilaries have different offsets to the carby models and your belts will not line up if you use the Balancer pulley from a carby motor.
# Wiring Loom to suit this application. Plenty of people sell you off the shelf units that will plug into the cars electrics with minimal modifications, or for a neater look, an auto electrician can make a loom and integrate into the cars existing wiring.
# EFI V8 Oil Pressure sender for the computer
# Carby V8 Oil Pressure Sender Unit for the dash, if the vehicle is fitted with an oil pressure gauge. Those vehicles without an oil pressure gauge will still have a sender unit to run the low Oil light.
# Brass T-piece with appropriate size male and female fittings to mount two senders to the oil pump.
# EFI Extractors. Pacemaker make a set to suit EFI V8's into earlier model Commodores. The chassis rail is narrower in a pre VN model so you need extrators to suit. You may be able to use the factory cast manifolds, but have not tried. Speak to an exhuast shop.
# Y Piece to join the extractors to the remainder of your exhuast. The car will need to go to an exhuast shop for this.
# Top Radiator Hose (different from Carby to EFI Models)
# EFI V8 Throttle Cable
source: http://www.vkgroup3.com/Tech%20Artic...conversion.htm
Sounds Good, Thanks a lot...
so im thinking about getting a halfcut, computer engine and transmission and if the Vl Fuel systems is up to the challange it should sit right in and only need modifications to the mounting positions the tailshaft, diff and exhaust... my VL doesnt have power steering so those problems can be ticked off..
does that sound like ive got everything covered?
Not a valid input....
Why not put in power steering whilst you are it? The motor from a VN will come with a pump.
You put you left foot in, your put your right foot in , you take your left foot out and you slide it all about!
its a good idea... but im not sure how the conversion would go... and im not sure of how much space ill have in the bay so basics might be best
The wreckers i usually use, commwreck at condell park and pick and payless out at blacktown dont get many 8's in... but lots of people seem to be writing their VT's and VX's off and i wouldnt mind one of those!!
so if anyone knows of any wreckers or auctions in the Sydney area that do a good price then that would be a great help.. thanks!!
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I think the vn v8 alloy heads can be bolted straight to a black v8 but im not sure of this, someone on here would know, so what about it guys? pi$$ of the old siamese port heads and go for the alloys? the VK carby v8's were gold but when unleaded appeared in 86 the carby v8 did not like it one bit. so get the whole fuel injected motor with chip cam exhaust and you'll get 200+kw at the engine which is plenty and ohhhhh baby the sound of rumbling thunder and rubber chunks flying as you tear up the ashphelt. mmmmmmmmm
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ucwepn is right. those heads will bolt over, however id save the effort and try to get the whole lot together, drop it all in as one.
VL being a lighter car will love the newer V8. SNY as far as space in the bay goes youll fit it in without a worry. ive seen the whole lot in there, ac, ps, even a supercharger with room to spare. Most people more the battery to the boot for 2 reasons, extra room and teh intake for the newer V8s is on the VL's battery side.
yep im going to talk to one of my mums mates who owns a garage on saturday... he should be able to help with a lot of things... mainly engine set up (i want it supercharged!!)
i know a bloke thats going to buy my worked RB30 and running gear and as soon as the tribunal fiasco is over i should hopefully be able to start work on it...
ive seen a few VL's with newer V8's in them aswell like a 5.7l i know a bloke thats got one of those in his hilux and ohh baby that thing is sweeet!!
just cant wait to rumble down the streets rather then pussy fart my way through them!!!
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