vt v8 or turbo?
heya. i'm just wondering what you guys and gals think would be the better option for my vl. i'm tossing up either getting a vt v8 to put in my vl or to turbo the standard 3L. atm my car has complete stock running gear. oh and i dont really care to much bout fuel. few questions. 1) what do you think would be a better option? 2) which would work out cheaper? 3) which one would end of being better bang for the buck? i'm aiming for 200kw atw's. cheers.
If your after that power, Turbo will be alot cheaper.Originally Posted by hosedogg
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turbo, cheaper easy power but would cost a little bit 2 get 200rwkw around 3-4grand+++ still cheaper than the injected 5L tho
Are you interested in doin the stock setup of either? A stock VLT setup can be as cheap as 1000-1200, not including upgrading the tranny and diff.
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he wants 200rwkw so thats clearly not stock...
ah true, didnt read that bit, well a vlt only puts out 150 at the fly, so i dunno how many kw that is at the wheels. 200rwkw defintnalty not stock.
Yeah stock V8 5.0L's are only about 122kW @ 4400rpm.
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yeah but thats what ther were in the VL. He wants either a turbo 3l of a VT injected. probably more around the 160kw mark, i'm sure someone knows the actual stats 160 is just a guess.
well turbo would be heaps cheaper, easier, quicker and more common, if you want to be origional go with the VT 5l, but it wont be cheap, loom, gearbox ecu, sure theres lots more
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Hey bro, he wants a injected 5.0 from a vt.
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yea thats still only like 140 give or take rwkw tho
the vt 5L has 179kw (flywheel) and 400nmif i opted for the v8 would i be better of with the auto? my car's a manual now and i dont really want an auto though. i'm leaning towards the v8 option as with the turbo i would hate to hit mid corner and lose it. oh and i've got a mate who can get me the vt v8 with auto, loom and ecu for $2,000. he said $5,000 with the manual. cheers.
now projecting oh yeah :D
i thought the vt was the first to come out with the choice of either 5.0litre or the 5.7 gen ? and looking around i found some vn, vr efi v8's for $1200 as im keen to do the same conversion and $4500 for a vn worked efi complete with box and diff.. doesnt sound to crazy and i think it would definetly be worth it
tell me wat you decide
Dan
Last edited by dan_man31; 15-10-2006 at 02:02 PM.
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179at the fly is only like 140-150rw tho dude could have so much more fun with a turbo u just need 2 kno how 2 drive lolthe vt 5L has 179kw (flywheel) and 400nm
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but yea fair enough if u can get the injected 5L pretty cheap do it as the vl is soo light it would still boot fair hard
yes the vt did have a 5.7 option.
shouldn't really take to much to get 200 though you wouldn't think. if i turboed my engine would my spark plugs be alright? i know both turbo and n/a have the same gap, but one is colder (not sure which one). i only just put iridium's in thats all. i'd prob be better of with turbo. i've got an xf tb sitting in the garage ready to go on also. would 2.5" exhaust be bigger enough for turbo? would my non turbo manual be able to hold? what about my diff? brakes will be getting overhauled no matter what. cheers.
VN28CN
with the turbo option you will need vl turbo front brakes/vn v8 or like a vt upgrade to comply with adr.
v8 you will need bigger sway bar in the front and maybe brakes, dunno if they came bigger in the vl's.
the sparkplugs will bhe alright to begin with but they will die out very quickly.
2.5 exhaust wouldnt be too bad, but if you want the 200rwkw you will need alot of mods and money to get it there: injectors computer, intercooler, bigger turbo, pistons and your looking at big $$$.
im am running a non turbo box behind mine atm and it should be alright if i don't flog the crap out of it.
it will probaly cost you about the same which ever way you go if you want the 200rwkw mark and still have reliability. but the turbo would probaly be slightly cheaper on fuel running around. thats y i opted for this option.
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your 5spd would hold up for a while, just really depends on how u drive same with the diff and ur breaks, well find a vl turbo diff and that will fix 2 problems at the same time, 2.5" exhaust will b fine but 3" all the way thru is the go
well i'll prob more then likely go turbo, because i dont really want all the added weight of a v8 over the front. will be getting vt front brakes and a turbo diff and an r33 manual. thrust bearing went a fair while ago and i think the other bearings are starting to follow now. with a vl turbo making 200rwkw would a 3" exhaust be best suited or would a 3.5" be better suited? just dont want to change things to something if something else would be better. cheers.
3.5", because once you get to 200rwkw, you will want more.
thanks mate. just took me 1st step and ordered a vt brake upgradecant wait for them to get here. cheers.
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do a search, this has been covered a few times. i was looking to upgrade my 5ltr to an injected engine. up to IRS rear is easy as, after that you have to get some more computer work done to make it work. i was looking at at it costing about 5k and getting 1500odd of that back by selling bits. believe it or not converting the 6 to an 8 is about the same work as an older 8 to a new 8.
like stewy said, computers and electronics looms etc are the biggest pain in the arse.
ok well i've decided to go with the turbo. umm.. a little of topic, but can you use a xf series 2 tps on an xf series 1 tb?
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