changing an axle

[lord_davros]

hi all.

just wondering if anyone could shed some light on my problem..

my rear wheel bearing is in a really bad way so i got a complete axle and wheel bearing from the wreckers.. my problem is that when i tiik it out i had to give it an almighty wack to dislodge it but i cant get it back in there.. it sits in there but wont seem to clip in... i have tried tightening up the bolts on the plate but they just do up and dont seem to make a difference.... could it be the diff that is actually buggerd causing the axle to move in and out or could i just need to replace the bearing cone as the old worn and noisy one might have worn it beyond repair... also could it just need more force to pop it into place...


thanks heaps

dave

[walesy]

oops sorry posted wrong... mods delete pls......sorry dave

[Tree cutter]

You should always replace the cone when you replace a bearing because the cone can destroy the new bearing in no time if it is worn. The axel probably isnt going in far enough because the splines arent going into the diff centre. You might have to turn the axel as you wriggle it up down back and forward until you feel it fall into place.

[bangers]

wiggle it a bit while tapping it with a piece of wood. and you should definately change the cone, its the outer race for the bearing and are matched.

[gungazza]

could it be different no spline ??

[lord_davros]

could it be different no spline ??

checked the splines and they are the same count... also it goes in a little but just doesnt seem to lodge into place.... i will replace the race tomorrow after i get the matching one from the wreckers........ hopefully that fixes it...

if not if anyone in adelaide has a complete diff i will be looking to buy...

[lil_oneblue]

do not use s/h bearings if thats what your doing...?? why not just get new ones... only about 20bux if that or a set of bearings and seal. use your original axle and replace em. and while ya at it replace the other side......... using s/h bearings will be wasting your time.......

[lord_davros]

do not use s/h bearings if thats what your doing...?? why not just get new ones... only about 20bux if that or a set of bearings and seal. use your original axle and replace em. and while ya at it replace the other side......... using s/h bearings will be wasting your time.......

just needed somthing to get me out of trouble as my mech isnt there till tuesday....

ok so i put the axle in and do up the bolts on the plate that holds it in but the axle still moves in and out... any ideas?????

[Tree cutter]

If it only moves in and out about half a mm dontworry about it , if it has more you might have to put shims behind the cone to space it out to get rid of the movement.

[lord_davros]

If it only moves in and out about half a mm dontworry about it , if it has more you might have to put shims behind the cone to space it out to get rid of the movement.

by the cone do you mean the rubber thing that pushes up on the plate? if i was to do that it would be easy but to do it inside the axle it would have to be within very tight tolerances wouldnt it?


thanks for all the help people... very much appreciated

[Tree cutter]

The cone is the bit of the bearing that is in the diff housing, you would need to put the shim behind it and then tap it back into the diff housing. If you put new bearings in there shouldnt be much movement so you wont have to worry about shims.

[STEALTHY™]

Are you using the right axle? Left and right axles are different in size, but not by alot. Left are shorter, and usually the most prone to snapping (and garunteed if you have a weldy)

[lord_davros]

hey all.

took it to the mech's today and he agreed that i will need a shim as the housing is worn so it wont match up even with the new bearing.... will be putting it in tomorrow so heres hopeing..


thanks heaps for all your help


dave

[lord_davros]

hey again.
another question.. haventr been able to take it to the mechs yet.. but i bought a wheel bearing kit and the new one has the bearing race joined to the actual bearing....the guy said the disk brake rear ebds take a different bearing... could this be why mine has been loose as i has the bearing from the drum rear end????
thanks
dave

[Tree cutter]

Hrrm not sure about that one. I didnt know that disc and drum rear ends used different bearings and cant find anything mentioned in my Gregorys or Ellerys manuals. The Ellerys manual does mention that the axle seal acts as a spacer to get the correct bearing clearance so it must be the correct seal.

[lord_davros]

ahh ok.

when i try and wobble the new bearing it doesnt move but it feels like it is moving from the diff end not the bearings.. is it possible that the diff is broken and not the bearings?.

[Tree cutter]

You probably have some wear in the axle splines and the side gears in the diff. It shouldn't make any noises but could be a weak spot, as in the splines will eventually strip if you give it too much of a flogging. I would just drive it and see how it goes, it could last for years.