All my previous cars have been Holdens, the VL ( RB30E, 5 spd ) is my first EFI that I want to play with alittle. I have no idea as to the need/quality of replacment chips, and if so, where can I go that has them for a NON TURBO motor. I ring a shop, and the say, "Yeah, we have a chip for the turbo VL, but not the other!Were do I go, Who do I see?
The engine internals are stock, so that rules out a Crow Cams Package. HELP ???
DON'T get an off-the-shelf chip. EVER.
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Same shit with chips. Do a few mods first, then get the chip re-written from a dyno.
Think about it - what would a $10/hour workshop be able to find that was SO wrong in a stocko factory car that millions of dollars worth of R&D would've missed? Get my drift?
So, where would be the best place on the Sunny Coast or Nth Brisbane to go for such an exercise. I went thru the yellow pages, and found 2, one was not interested unless I spend an extra $2450 on cam, exhust etc., and the other is all "off the shelf". Please help anyone!!!
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Grant- Unless you have exhaust and extractor's, there is little point in remapping the EPROM. Even then I'd say it's overkill. To be completely honest I wouldn't recommend anyone the Sunshine Coast to remap or even tune any programmable ECU.
-Advance the timing to around 25-30 degrees and run it on premium.
-Get some pacemaker extractors and a nice flowing 2.5" Exhaust
-Fit a K&N Filter Panel and run some cold air into the bottom of your factory airbox. Use PVC pipe and go through the inner guard.
- Remove the AFM mesh.
- XF Throttle Body
All up about $800.
Then consider getting the chip remapped. I still believe there's no great gains to be had with the factory cam profile.
Keep in mind I don't know what mods your car already has
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An afterthought...
Keep in mind factory standard RB30 bottom end's can handle alot more punishment than a simple cam. I have heard of and personally examined VL Turbo's with stock bottom end's making 200rwkws. Rumour has it that certain Melbourne workshop's have ran bullsh!t time's with 200,000klm bottom ends sourced from the wreckers. I'm talking cars putting out in excess of 350rwkws.
DO NOT underestimate the RB
Jake.
All good advice.......but if you still want to chip it, I recommend "The Brock Shop" (Underwood - Brisbane). I've had a VL, VR, VS, VT, and currently a VX. The VR and VS I had chipped as well as a cold air induction kit fitted. Dyno'd before and after. Got about an extra 15kw from both. The extra benefit was better fuel economy on top of the performance. I think you would properly get a similar result.
As far as the VT and VX go.......Holden have got their chips and air induction soooooo perfect now you cannot better it. (unless you do other mod's)
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Thankyou to you both, I've got the K&N panel, used powdercoated 3"pipe curtousy of the local muffler shop for the cold air, already run it on optimax ( relegiously ), already had the 2.5"system but with stock manifold. Just dont want it to be heard too much, family car. The BBC in the HZ was for waking up the neibours, got sick of hassles with cops. This is why I keep it quiet.
On the other note, two of the VL's in the top 10 have STOCK- FACTORY bottom ends, just a shit load of breathing work.( heads, throttle body, 4" exhust, intercooler etc)
Thanks again guys, I'll see what I can do !!!
I would like to know how many kw/hp did a RB30 come out with....?
work done by ME
VL N/A had 114
VL Turbo had 150
but rear wheel is prob about 95 -105 and 125 - 140
my web sitestuff on the XF throttle body conversion, calais interior and lots of other junk!
120kw? i think its like 0.7kw=1hp, but im not sure... so by those figurins 120kw = around 160hp... that sound right? i dunno, my head hurts...
Whats a chip worth??
You could pick up a second hand microtech for around $600
<<<There's a good present
powerchip do one for around 300-400. or crow do a cam and chip package for about the same.
Now driving R34 GT-T taxi
Originally Posted by onezero
So an ECU from groups like 'Powerchip' and 'UPS' ect ect are no good? or are you talking about more run of the mill chips out there?
America just kicked in yo
All the chip does is remap the fuel table and permanently advance the ignition timing, therefore giving around 10rwkw. I would rather get the custom chip and cam although it may only give 15-20 rwkw it will allow you more control over where in the rev range the power is delivered (like at low revs for the street or high revs for the track etc) meaning you can more power in a certain range by taking it away from another range.
Damn talk about digging up an old thread LOL *blows the dust off*
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ive seen em on e-bay for 70bucks, says an 8kw gain. You'll want something to increase your torque possibly.
Personally, I would go with a programable ecu instead of a chip.
It will cost more, but you wont need to replace it.
Now driving R34 GT-T taxi
Any recommendations for ECU's mate?
i've been looking at the powerchip bronze chip, $290 for 10kw gain. i've advanced the timing to 20 but it results in a bit of drop off in power in the higher revs so hopefully the chip will make it better up top. seems like powerchip do a lot of r&d and the price is good compared to others (except dodgey ebay stuff but who would buy that).
also referring to a post up near the top DO NOT advance timing to 25-30 degrees, pinging will be shocking....20 at the most
I would recommend Autronic.
i personally think chips are a waste of money, i doubt they do shiite. the gains (if any) on a n/a vl would be ever so slight. id rather setup a CAI and have a free flowing exhaust with extractors. but its your money spend it on what you like.
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