why is the VL a cult car

[harry3]

The VL 6 is said to now be a cult car , especially for young men who cant wait to spend a fortune increasing the already adequate power.

the combination of an overpowered car with an inexperienced driver is worrying

obviously VLs are cheap but there must be other appealing things such as the shape, size, rear seat headroom and ease of visibility for the driver

the next commodore, the VN is quite unwanted

the RB 30 engine is smooth and powerful but the nissan skyline with the same engine isnt popular.

The demand fot the VL makes it top of the list for being stolen, helped by the fact that almost any VL commodore key will open and start any VL. The cause seems to be wear in the lock cylinders over the years

a security system is essential

any ideas why the VL is so popular, perhaps it looks strong and healthy, all later commodores look pregnant and sick to me

[VL_5SPEED]

Best looking commy. Shape and style. VL V8's are not cult cars. It is only because of the nissan rb30 motor. Easy and cheap to turbo charge and respond very well to modifications. Not only that but you can buy a VL turbo with highflowed t3, 3 inch exhaust for $5000 and it will kill a lot of cars including all stock and a lot of modded V8s. Thats another reason they are so popular. Because they are so cheap, and parts are so cheap. Every now and again 9-10 second VL's pop up for sale and they only usually go for $15-20 grand.

The nissan r31 (rb30 motor) is not a popular car because they did NOT come out with a factory turbo, which means that if you turbo charge it you have to get it engineered. Not only that but Holden is Australian... Just driving the VL makes you proud to be Australian... The VL is one of the best cars Holden have produced.

[STEALTHY™]

First of all, I don't see then as a cult car. They have a strong following, but cult cars i would say are like the VL Walky, VK brocks etc.


Also, you don't have to engineer putting a turbo on a non turbo car, since they come with them from factory.
As you don't have to engineer changing from a VN V6 to a VN V8, as the car came with that motor from factory, this is assuming you already have a brake upgrade (4 wheel disc brakes on the VL)

[88GreenVN]

VL's are popular (your version of a cult car) as is any Holden when it reaches it's use by date - somewhere around the 20 year old mark. They become cheap as the main stream population driving cars upgrade well before they become junk. The transistion is a slow process but it happens to all models and the more they make the longer the model lasts. Youngsters buy them (VL's) as they are an affordable car, easy to fix and do a good job. Go the VL..

They will be saying the same about the VT one day as they made over 300,000 of the buggers. Sheer weight of numbers makes then seem to last for ever. And the big thing to do to them in 10 years time will be to fix the sagy bum rear ends. (whats your VT got - Oh it's an override double action air lift auto ride leveling system with triple action oversize soft springs PLUS the biggest adjustable camber kit you can buy)


Who said VN's are not wanted. Am I the only one collecting VN's

[89 vn]

Sad as it is go read say Street Commodores or SMC and you wont find barely any VN-VP really in there, im my opinion the VL in general is probably one of the most popular cars to come from here and just about everyone likes the ol VL, hell when I was 17 all i wanted was a VL calais.

[88GreenVN]

Sad as it is go read say Street Commodores or SMC and you wont find barely any VN-VP really in there, im my opinion the VL in general is probably one of the most popular cars to come from here and just about everyone likes the ol VL, hell when I was 17 all i wanted was a VL calais.

Ho no - I dont have a cult car in the old VN

Life sucks some times.

[vee ka]

they are light, good power, cheap to buy, relatively cheap to mod, good shape/nice look, pretty comfortable, easy to drive, reliable ( apart from the head corrosion problems ), parts are plentyfull......

they have quite alot going for them, i've had two over the years, one NA 6 and one V8and would like another.

[VL_5SPEED]

VL's are popular (your version of a cult car) as is any Holden when it reaches it's use by date - somewhere around the 20 year old mark.

They will be saying the same about the VT one day as they made over 300,000 of the buggers. Sheer weight of numbers makes then seem to last for ever. And the big thing to do to them in 10 years time will be to fix the sagy bum rear ends. (whats your VT got - Oh it's an override double action air lift auto ride leveling system with triple action oversize soft springs PLUS the biggest adjustable camber kit you can buy)

If that is so why are vk's and vns not popular??? The vl turbo is australias most highly moddified commodore


VT's will never be popular... ugly ugly ugly junk cars... unless its the v8 vt your talking about what will still never be popular due to being a v8.

[VL_5SPEED]

calaisturbo.com.au - Powered by vBulletin 22,000 members on a forum what is for VL TURBOS and VL's only!!! Prove to me that its not a cult car.

[88GreenVN]

VL turbo = cult car no doubt. Standard white VL = nope not a cult car at all.

The VN just needs to age a bit more. - runs and hides in corner to dodge all the rotten fruit being chucked

[stocky]

calaisturbo.com.au - Powered by vBulletin 22,000 members on a forum what is for VL TURBOS and VL's only!!! Prove to me that its not a cult car.

well im a member on there and i dont have a VL or a calais or a turbo. im sure there are quite a few members like that. numbers mean nothing. a lot of VL drivers are sheep anyway. all doing the same mods, driving the same yellow bt1 mockups. i dont mind the VL calais, i just prefer the ones that have original ideas. its weird how the headlights make them look so different to a vl exec

[scrabet]

probly because their prety cheap to buy now and cheap to mod and get parts for

hehe go the vn's i miss my old one and its onlky been gone for 3 days

[VL_5SPEED]

well im a member on there and i dont have a VL or a calais or a turbo. im sure there are quite a few members like that. numbers mean nothing. a lot of VL drivers are sheep anyway. all doing the same mods, driving the same yellow bt1 mockups. i dont mind the VL calais, i just prefer the ones that have original ideas. its weird how the headlights make them look so different to a vl exec

That website is probably more active then this forum with vl turbo talk then all vb-ve talk put together on this froum.

Of course most vl turbos are basically the same... Bigger turbos, bigger injectors, aftermarket ecu i dont see what your getting at???? Or do you mean we should start ricing up our vls with bodykits?

Thats another reason why vls are popular.. Its probably the only commodore what doesnt need a body kit to look good.





But you have to agree the main reason why it is a cult car is because of the rb30 motor.

[stocky]

That website is probably more active then this forum with vl turbo talk then all vb-ve talk put together on this froum.

Of course most vl turbos are basically the same... Bigger turbos, bigger injectors, aftermarket ecu i dont see what your getting at???? Or do you mean we should start ricing up our vls with bodykits?

Thats another reason why vls are popular.. Its probably the only commodore what doesnt need a body kit to look good.

But you have to agree the main reason why it is a cult car is because of the rb30 motor.

no offence intended man. i go on that forum sometimes. theyve got some good threads on there showing me how to do some diff work. there are a lot of knobs on there though. i remember one named grk-wpn or something lol. always good for a laugh though.
i kinda agree about the bodykit, but it depends what you would class the calais popup headlight cover things as. i dont think a VL looks good without them for some reason.
the bit where i said theyre the same, i mean like, when i see 20 yellow BT1s in one spot, i think its the most boring sight ever. i couldnt stand looking to my right and left and seeing cars exactly the same as mine.

[VH commodore]

Thats another reason why vls are popular.. Its probably the only commodore what doesnt need a body kit to look good.

vb, vc, vh dont need a kit. vl's usually need calias front end to look good...depends what u consider a body kit, i usually think of them as an after market job, so all ss commodores and most calias dont need a body kit to look good.

[Emackulation]

Want a car with a woefull interior, anorexic exterior and a jap engine, buy a VL....Gee VL's are great, I wish i was part of this cult...

[Wagon_Wheel]

Yeah i REALLY dont see whats so great about them.
Fair enough they are quick with a turbo on them, but what car isnt?!
And i wouldnt go as far as saying no one likes VN's, take a look around, there are tonnes of ppl that have there minds dead set on VN's, take a look at VN SS's for example.

I know i would much prefer a VN SS over a VL anyday.

VL's are in no way unique either, they are over flowing and most of them look the same, everyone is a calais mock up.

And they are not cheap these days any more because of the popularity of them.

And dont say i have to go in one to believe how good they are etc, because i have been in several, including one insanely quick turbo one, it was good. But i would still rather buy a different car for what the car was worth

VT's will never be popular... ugly ugly ugly junk cars... unless its the v8 vt your talking about what will still never be popular due to being a v8.

Thats just your opinion, im sure the VT lovers will say the same about the VL's, and what the hell do you mean about a v8 never being popular? You name some cars that have remained a sort after classic from YEARS ago, that isnt a v8?!

22,000 members on a forum what is for VL TURBOS and VL's only!!! Prove to me that its not a cult car.

That site isnt JUST ppl with VL's, i know plenty of ppl that are members that dont own VLs, but i'd say most would

Of course most vl turbos are basically the same... Bigger turbos, bigger injectors, aftermarket ecu i dont see what your getting at???? Or do you mean we should start ricing up our vls with bodykits?

Thats another reason why vls are popular.. Its probably the only commodore what doesnt need a body kit to look good.

But you have to agree the main reason why it is a cult car is because of the rb30 motor.

What you mean no body kit?
I think they look ugly without calais front, and majority i see, have calais front, calais side moulds etc, which i would class as a body kit.
And to mention, all the mock up, aero's, walkies etc

[VL_5SPEED]

Yeah i REALLY dont see whats so great about them.
Fair enough they are quick with a turbo on them, but what car isnt?!
And i wouldnt go as far as saying no one likes VN's, take a look around, there are tonnes of ppl that have there minds dead set on VN's, take a look at VN SS's for example.

I know i would much prefer a VN SS over a VL anyday.

VL's are in no way unique either, they are over flowing and most of them look the same, everyone is a calais mock up.

And they are not cheap these days any more because of the popularity of them.

And dont say i have to go in one to believe how good they are etc, because i have been in several, including one insanely quick turbo one, it was good. But i would still rather buy a different car for what the car was worth



Thats just your opinion, im sure the VT lovers will say the same about the VL's, and what the hell do you mean about a v8 never being popular? You name some cars that have remained a sort after classic from YEARS ago, that isnt a v8?!



That site isnt JUST ppl with VL's, i know plenty of ppl that are members that dont own VLs, but i'd say most would



What you mean no body kit?
I think they look ugly without calais front, and majority i see, have calais front, calais side moulds etc, which i would class as a body kit.
And to mention, all the mock up, aero's, walkies etc

Yes but your missing the point VLs came out with factory turbos... So joblow can walk into a shop, buy vl turbo gear, bolt it on and drive away. No need to get it engineered. When I said bodykits I ment putting on gay t spoilers or hornet scoops or newer model commodore body kits on older model commodore....


And do you really see v8s being popular in the future when petrol will be $2+ a liter.

[Wagon_Wheel]

I never said anything about engineering anything, but yes you can get a quick factory turbo vl.

I do see V8s being popular still, as you can see the newer models are coming out with bigger and more powerful motors and ppl are still buying them.

Are you also saying that a worked VL turbo uses less fuel than a V8?
The only turbo's i know that my mates own, use a HEAP more fuel than a V8

[greenfoam]

It depends where you live, VN/P 5 litres are far more popular and sought after than VL turbos where I live. But if you live in a highly ethnic place that has a turbo culture like say Melbourne then you will find more VLT's. At the local dragstrip here you would normally find no more than one VLT on average with perhaps a couple other non VL's cars running RB30 transplants. But there will be several VN/P 5 litres at every meeting along with the normal 50 chequebook racer LS1's. Still I'm considering swapping my VH SLE for a VL exec if I can find a grandma enough one

[cxcxcxvcvcvc]

I gotta say i do have a soft spot for vl aero,s!

[Rishy]

And do you really see v8s being popular in the future when petrol will be $2+ a liter.

Yes i do. Who cares if petrol hits $2+, how much does a 600ml bottle of coke cost? Petrol in the UK has been at $2.50aus for a while and the US is currently at $3.70aus. So we get it pretty cheap.

[VL_5SPEED]

Are you also saying that a worked VL turbo uses less fuel than a V8?
The only turbo's i know that my mates own, use a HEAP more fuel than a V8

Depends how they are driving it man. Driving it easy and off boost the majority of the time and it will be the same or use slightly more fuel then a N/A rb30. Flog it hard and it will drink the fuel...

Yeh thats cool greenfoam.. Im from newwy.... Not many VL turbos or VL's around here... Which is also good when you cruise around town and you hear heaps of people saying or shouting "VEEE ELLLL" haha.

[VL_5SPEED]

there are a lot of knobs on there though. i remember one named grk-wpn or something lol. always good for a laugh though.

haha yehh that guy gets a lot of abuse thrown at him lol

He cut massive holes behind his back set to fit subwoofers
YouTube - grkwpn sick subwoofer

[VNexecutive]

Depends how they are driving it man. Driving it easy and off boost the majority of the time and it will be the same or use slightly more fuel then a N/A rb30. Flog it hard and it will drink the fuel...

Yeh thats cool greenfoam.. Im from newwy.... Not many VL turbos or VL's around here... Which is also good when you cruise around town and you hear heaps of people saying or shouting "VEEE ELLLL" haha.

dude you can get a 5L down below 10L/100k if you drive it easy aswell. no use for a turbo if your not going to use it though. as with the extra 2 cylinders in an 8.