Hey dudes,
how hard is it 2 drop a 30det in 2 my vl.
How expensive are these engine can u pick up a cheap 1 or would it b rooted.
How can i b sure im not buyin a rooted engine?
Any info on this would b great?
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Do you mean a RB30ET?
Because the 'D' denotes double overhead cam.
RB30DET's were never factory produced. They are a hybrid motor bro, it's a RB25DET head on the 3.0L Block. Fairly easy to do with the non VVT heads bit harder if you want the variable valve timing.
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Oh shit yeh sorry that was a typo.
i was thinkin bout the RB26dett sorry bout that bro.
What price do the 30's sell 4?
Expect to pay between $1500 and $2000 for a complete original rb30et secondhand.
Even though they are old they still fetch what I call 'stupid money'.
You can do a conversion using a decompression plate or just put turbo pistons in the n/a block to drop the compression. ACL sell these pistons.
Have a read in the non turbo section of www.ozperformance.net, you'll find everything you need to know from those who have done it all before.
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the differences in the turbo motor compared to the standard motor are that they have a different cam with more valve overlap, low compression pistons and a different oil pump.......fairly easy to do if you've got the time. i just replaced my oilpump/front cover(the oil pump is built into the front cover) and out of curiosity i found out a price for the turbo oil pump new and it was $600....although the guy that told me that also said that a standard oil pump was used in rebuilds....so they obviosly create sufficient pressure to cope!!!
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yeah they would, there isnt more things that need oil, or need it goign around faster i dont think, it costs around $1500 to convert your N/A to a turbo.
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would it be a good idea to buy the turbo,manifold,intercooler ect.... from ebay and then get some1 to install it for me??
Dont forget the computer too, and injectors.
Is that doing it yourself?Originally Posted by Stewart1000
That would be doing it yourself - yes. I don't think many mechanics would want to touch it because they all seem to think its guaranteed that the engine will die.
It is a pretty easy job. The hardest part was lining up the oil/water lines while laying on my back, covered in oil and coolant, with a sore neck, scraped knuckles and cramps. But everything else was easy.
Changing the ecu is just unplug and plug the new one in.
Soak the exhaust manifold in penetrant. Undo the cat/ front pipe if you don't have extractors. Undo the manifold bolts, take that off. Clean up the surface. If you have manifold studs it would be a thousand times easier to bolt manifold/ turbo/ dump and lines together, and lift that onto the studs. I didn't have studs, and had bolts. That was very ###king hard to do. Holding it there while trying to line up bolts.
And injectors, top half of the plenum off, fuel rail off.. Injector change, all back in, hey presto.
Check for leaks. New coolant, new oil. Start the car, check for leaks. Drive.. Check for leaks.
yea if u kno how to pull an engine out and stick it back in its pretty simple and an rb30et will bolt straight in becasue its the same block and so forth......there is no real point in converting an n/a...sure some people have had great times witha a converted n/a but with the 9-1 compression ration as soon as u boost anything over 10pound your gonna blow something......
rb30ets go for around 1500 - 2000....... then u need vlt gearbox comp and so forth.......in most cases its easier to buy a vlt or if your deadset on a turbo spend the money and get a good vlt engine built![]()
I disagree, there is no real point in converting the n/a?
Higher Response, Surely there would be a large amount of torque getting added, lower boost for the same power.
200rwkw isn't a difficult task. And with correct tuning and good cooling and fuel theres no reason at all why it will go boom.
Originally Posted by Bax
ive seen alot of these done and only a handfull are makeing any good power or reliablity....then main problem i have is people jus saying whack a turbo on it and thats all there is to it....if ya gonna do something y not do it right in the first place....it will save alot of headaches later on.
A handful? I'm sure that a majority of the conversions are reliable. It would only be when you got somebody that didn't know what they were doing to begin with when it would become unreliable.
If you speak to the r31 guys you'll find that there are alot pumping out very good power- Cheap power.
Originally Posted by Bax
if people wanna jus whack a turbo on an n/a rb30 wih 200,000ks with NO internal modifications to engine or driveline be my guest......people dont relze these are 20 year old engines....and if treated right they will deliver alot of power but slapping on a turbo and hopeing for the best isnt the way to go
i got quote for 18psi all day full rebuild from nizpro 23,000 grand from n/a to turbo with t3hiflow turbo forge /ACL pistons and custom plenum coller ra ra ra but man 23.000 is steap if there is cheaper help me plz... buy the way this is all brand new parts...
at that price it beta b all new, the cheaper way is doing it ur self and using second hand parts or buying off ebay, will defantly cut the price bak from 23G
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Originally Posted by tougHnA
shop around.....alot of places will overcharge if they dont wanna do the job....u could get it down cheaper i rekon.....if u can do alot of the labour yourself u will save alot of money aswell
or u could jus go out and buy a smick ass vl allready pipmed out for 23g![]()
well i can do all the labour exept i never hooked tubo plumber water line oil line rararara before... i mean i could do the motor then get tubo put on by mechanic but...... no1 want to touch turbos fo cheap round here....![]()
so wat u guys r sayin is that u cant turbo a n/a vl? is that wat ur saying???
i dont know a lot about cars but i thought u could do some engin things an just slap on a turbo as long as all the internals r done. PLEAZ help me?!?!?!
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u can turbo ANY car, ppl just think becoz they made vl turbo's that its easy to turbo any VL, 'ya just slap on a turbo right?' ....... nope not quite that easy. From what i hear if u want to turbo a series 1 engine then u shouldnt even bother becoz u gotta be doin things that are better left as they are, eg drillin holes and all sorts. aparently the series 2 motor is more fit for the turbo conversion but Seems easier to save 2-3g and buy a rb30et and then just put that in.![]()
theres a good turbo conversion pack on ebay at the moment it has everything eg: turbo planium, exhaust manifold, turbo, turbo injectors, computer, intercooler with all the pipes and has all the oil lines also check it out.