vl what do you think of them
how much they normally cost in vg condtion poor with rwc rego etc
needing some more undies
i think theyre slow, crap on petrol, but if u find a good one, they can be made to look verrrry nice.
bout 5 grand for a decent on, calais turbo that is.
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Can't stand them too be honest. I know 2 people who have had VL's and said they were a big big bucket of problems. They're old and most of them have been thrashed by previous p platers. Try and get something a little newer if your budget allows (VR/VS).Originally Posted by justmyluck
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I own a 87 2.0litre straight 6 berlina, it's not slow, (it's even an auto) haven't started weight reduction yet. Brilliant ride. I bought mine for 6k (one owner from new low k's really looked after)
Threw in some king springs, advanced the timing alittle, colder intake and ive taken on most turbo manual cars and waved to them in the review mirror.
They are crap and slow if you don't know the proper tweaks. Plenty online.
I recomend king springs for handling, and just miner things like advancing the timing and a colder intake.
have you driven on anything else other than king springs and stock ? imo king springs are dogs balls to be honest i had them in my car and couldnt stand the body roll it was worse than stock so i put some pedders springs in with pedders gas ryder shocks all round and now it is much better and at a nice hight, also you sayin you leave turbo vl's behind is complete bull mate a stock 2 ltr with cold air intake will not beat a turbo 2 litre or 3 litre for that matter.
Last edited by seans VL Calais; 01-11-2008 at 06:17 PM.
VL turbo was the best commodore made. And the only 6 cylinder commodore worth owning or modding.
1988 VL Berlina turbo 5 speed
http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/...ml#post1446411
1987 VL SL turbo 5 speed ~STOLEN~
http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/...ed-manual.html
+ 1 couldnt have said it better myselfVL turbo was the best commodore made. And the only 6 cylinder commodore worth owning or modding.
well i would trade my ride for a stock vlt
5 Grand for a decent Calais Turbo? Would be a great buy.
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lol Until 8 months ago, Pedders springs were re-branded King Springs lol Now they are supplied by a cheaper manufacturer. Some Pedders springs are made somewhere in Vic at their head office, but they're only specialised products and its only a small factory, not nearly big enough to supply demand for the commodore range of springs etc. King Springs/Pedders are alright for ride quality, Lovells are the go for handling.
As for Pedders shocks.. They are just re-branded Monroe's which are crap anyway. Atleast get KYB if thats your price bracket, or if you can afford better Koni or something similar.
Last edited by 1991_Vn2nV; 02-11-2008 at 12:17 AM.
has mild super powers
VL's are generaly pretty good cars , good on fuel, usualy cheep to fix and they look nice with a decent paint job and some nice wheel's
(one of the best commodores ever made but thats just my opinion)
What i don't like about them is. . .
The stock brakes and suspention are pretty crap at best (but being over 20 years old it's to be expected) , but with decent springs,shocks,sway bars and brakes i've been told they handle pretty well.
I have a stock VL executive (auto) I bought for $600.
I'm regretting buying it for $600 cause it's been a waste of money. Petrol's a bitch, Paint was **** and everything to do with the engine has ****ed itself.
I love commodores and I love the look of the VL... I just wish it was a 5 speed Calais turbo..
All it needs is a paint job, mags and a service...
I'm looking for a new commodore... VR/VS?
why not buy a decent vl 5 speed then and convert it to turbo later on instead of buying a vr/vs. thats what i would do. you could pick up a nice 5speed sl or berlina for around $2000-$3000 maybe even a calais.
what do u expect for 600 dollars lol .. u get what u pay for
but i fond that around the 1k mark u can get some fairly decent vls that only need a few things sorted out.
but ive owned around seven so far and find apart from usual rust issues there a good car good motor and are not that bad on fuel
wrecking VL COMMODORE 5 speed
FOR SALE : supra 5 speed box suite holden v8 $800
Bout a month ago i bought a vl executive for 1300 with a years rego.. runs like a charm, just drinks a bit too much petrol? you think a tune up would fix this problem? as i think it is running rich on petrol..
My workin on the car face
In my honest opinion im not big on them.
Im not a fan of how they look, side on they look like they were still being sketched onto a pad for future planning. Lots of angular window lines with the little duck-tail boot and narrow front grille with alot of obvious plastic body parts.
The engines were quite good, but at this age all the problems are arising. And due to it being a fuel injected ECU controlled car all of the sensors are throwing in the towel. Also, i tried nipping up a few bolts on my old one and i sheared them straight off, no torque at all and they just fell off. Also i didnt like how they ditched the aussie engines for a cheaper overseas alternative. Regardless of power, im about aussie pride and that hurt me.
Best commodore ever? Na not really. VT is up there in terms of revolutionary design, looks, interior quality and space, VB is up there for being the first aussie car that wanted to be small, powerful, comfortable and fuel efficient at the same time. The VL to me seems like a half way car from the VK to VN but they didnt have enough money to design an engine or make many changes other than circle gauges and a turbo option. Also they rusted easily in areas.
Sure the turbo was great, but u if take the time to turbo any car u will get the same results. Shove a turbo on a 202 with the proper fuel system and bottom end and you will get a street stomper. Ive heard of Diahatsu's with turbos getting some good times. So really, if the VL didnt get a turbo it wouldnt have left such a footprint. The VK Calais with its digital gauges could have gotten the turbo instead of the VL and you would be calling that the greatest commodore ever made.
This is just what I think, take it anyway u want. Cause i know there are people who dont like my model commodore
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Black,well i would trade my ride for a stock vlt
You car looks effing sick as F___K! Very jealous indeed, pity its not a manual! hows she drive?
>>sorry for going off topic guys lol
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They look alright with the calais front but theres too many exec drivers going around with cleartaillights and big exhaust s on a stock motor tryig to race me no matter what car im driving??
Even in my old 'slow' vq stato i cained the absolute **** out of a 5 speed on the highway from 100 (and there not too bad from 100 onwards, probably the same as a v6 manual with zorst...) And the only reason they do compare is because of the 3.45 ratio in the rear end, which makes them feel good in the first few seconds of takeoff, after that there not very competitive, even the vl turbos (talking stock)
Vl owners have this ego (same as vn drivers) that makes them look like idiots, thats not directed to the vl owners out there that arent cocky.
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Sadly this is true, the ones around my town all have the fart cannons with a completely stock motor running through a destroyed trans due to all the races and burnouts in them. Its mainly the P Platers who wanted the *fully sick bro* 80's skyline but could only afford a car with the same engine. So they race it like a skyline. Probably why its hard to find one in good nic these days with out a respray and mods since they just get dumped when they can afford the clapped out skyline of their dreams.
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The clear taillights must of only just come out for the vl, i see them popping up everywhere now (after they cut in front of me in MY lane, then slow down, then speed off, then sit beside me doing the same speed, maybe they think there faster or something who knows? all i know is that their **** wits with slow cars)
Again, i know not all vl drivers are like that but those particular drivers should at least go to a car yard and test drive something that has some balls, i always have the thought of installing a megaphone outside my car to yell at people that have no idea.
The vl turbo on the other hand is a great car, there not overlay quick from the factory but they look alot nicer than an exec, handle and brake better and have the potential to be quick without much effort. The interior however will never ever be something you could praise even in the calais.....
ewww i hate those clear tail lights .. give me stock calais or a really good set of exec ones anyday
wrecking VL COMMODORE 5 speed
FOR SALE : supra 5 speed box suite holden v8 $800
are you joking me about the interior ?? it is mint, id much rather my calais interior over any other commodore up to vt calais leather and so on. you cant beat a mint condition serries II vl red or beige calais interior...
i have a soft spot for vl's..
from day one i always hated them because they were lead to be dodgy..
but i got one for my first car for 1200, just a stocko 3l auto with extractors, sports exhaust lowered n mags
and i cant put a bad word on them
while i was still on my l's i put a 5speed in it and g*d dam did it make a huge difference! went from being sluggish to being able to take stocko ecotecs up to 80kmh which in the city is fine =P
they are fairly quick with a manual..
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I had a vc brock replica with the red velour interior with lights in the rear, wood grain dash etc and it's still way outdated and doesnt look modern at all.
If you have a passion for vl's then thats differant but you cant compare a vl, vn, vp, vr or vs to a vt calais' interior (maybe vp international but thats it)
VL calais series 2 interior is sexy as. I would take it over any vn+ calais interior. The vl calais door trims are like cusions lol.
1988 VL Berlina turbo 5 speed
http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/...ml#post1446411
1987 VL SL turbo 5 speed ~STOLEN~
http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/...ed-manual.html
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