nistune

[VL Berlina 5speed]

before anyone say CT ive been looking and reading into it quite a bit there just after anymore opinons

has anyone had much experiance with nistune?

would you reckomend it over the normal vlt comp when running NA comp motor, turbo injectors, GKtech intercooler, 10psi?

or will it just be a unneccery thing for that application

boost will stay at that, i wont wind it up only when i want to kill this motor off and i eventually have one built

[stocky]

vn_luke used it. he also had a NA block which took a lot of punishment before he killed it by blowing a head gasket. i think that was around 250rwkw?

[VL Berlina 5speed]

vn_luke used it. he also had a NA block which took a lot of punishment before he killed it by blowing a head gasket. i think that was around 250rwkw?

yer i was reading though lukes thread on CT

heard and read many stories of NA converts holding up to 18psi with injectors and nistune,

but ill be happy with the 10psi and 180 or so rwkw

[nasty1]

stock ecu and stock injectors good for around 12 psi.im runnin 12 psi on stock ecu and injectors.i wouldnt bother personaly if your leaving it at 10 pound for a while

[rb26dett]

Nistune would have to be better than a stock ecu for a mod motor

[Bax]

Agreed. Even though I know nothing about them, anything has to be better then stock. Esepecially with N/A comp.

[VLDavo]

wats the pricetag on em

[VN_Luke]

yes you want nistune.

it's about 450 bux installed, and combined with proper tuning it is what will ensure the biggest gains from your modifications....

stock AFM will max out at about 10psi, too.

www.nistune.com

[Bax]

10? Are you sure?

[VN_Luke]

10psi or there abouts, it will very from car to car, and even vary with temperature. - but they max out at approximately enough air to make ~200rwkw on a stock n/a motor.

of course you can run more boost fine - just that the ecu won't know how much air the engine is getting after the AFM maxes out (i.e. as far as the ECU knows it could be 10psi, 50psi, 100psi etc) - and that's a bad thing when you're trying to get PERFECT afr's to keep everything safe and happy.

having said that, you can 'hack' it all by putting in a rising rate reg etc - will be cheaper, just not be as tunable. - and tunable usually goes hand in hand with safety and good power.

[nasty1]

guys you are missing the point its not a modded motor.stick with stock ecu till you do your motor.

and as for afm put it in your cooler piping helps alot with more acurate tunning etc.

and they handle more then 10 psi lol

[VL Berlina 5speed]

bassically its all down to AF ratio, lean out and ill be having to get another na till i build the motor
will the standerd comp have much problems keeping a good/safe AF on 10psi?
or is the comp really at its limits at that much boost?

suppose i would pay 200-250 for a standerd comp
whats the diffrence if i spend just that little extra and get the nistune

looked through the nistune local dealers in adelaide and they are bassically all no name shops, only one which is commonly know but that shop will never touch my cars

might have to go see my mates dad john keen, see if he has any experiance with nistune

[nasty1]

my stock turbo ecu is at 12 psi its fine

[VN_Luke]

will the standerd comp have much problems keeping a good/safe AF on 10psi?
or is the comp really at its limits at that much boost?

you should be able to tune for around 10psi (give take a little depending on a million factors) just fine.

You will see a staggering difference in power and economy between using the stock maps (which are designed for 6? psi, and 'detune' the car anything above that to try keep the engine togther), and using a map that is DESIGNED to run on 10psi with a cooler, exhaust, and whatever else you've done.



the comp doesn't really have 'limits' so far as boost goes. You can 'extend' the tables in the ECU to cater for more and more load. - it's the air flow meter that maxes out - the fix for this is to upgrade to a z32 afm once you want to run more boost

- as an example I had my 100% bog stock NA motor (with bolt-on goodies) running on 20psi and made approx 275rwkw.

Unfortunately it tried to push the STOCK head gasket out the side of the block with the amount of cylinder pressure in there - but there was 0% signs of detonation.

- it made 230rwkw on 15 psi, and was happy with all kinds of abuse thrown at it

the bottom line is:
- if you want your car to just 'run', a stock ECU should do the trick no probs.
- if you want your car to run AND make the most power and be as safe and efficient as possible - go with an aftermarket setup (whether it be nistune, or a plugin aftermarket ecu)


the nice thing about nistune is that there's no modifying of the loom, etc! - The board is about 200 bux? and software another 200. if you're no good with soldering etc - I think matt (form nistune) can install it for about 50 bucks.

[greenfoam]

my stock turbo ecu is at 12 psi its fine

It maybe fine but I bet it's a dead set slug compared to it's potential, for the little price involved it's well worth having nistune, then you can put some injectors in, a bigger maf and run more like 250rwkw the right and safe way

[rb26dett]

guys you are missing the point its not a modded motor.stick with stock ecu till you do your motor.

and as for afm put it in your cooler piping helps alot with more acurate tunning etc.

and they handle more then 10 psi lol

First mod I did was get an Autronic for mine.

[nasty1]

It maybe fine but I bet it's a dead set slug compared to it's potential, for the little price involved it's well worth having nistune, then you can put some injectors in, a bigger maf and run more like 250rwkw the right and safe way

lol yep its a slug and how much you want to bet?

i didnt sey dont get a nistune but like i said guys hes gona run 10 psi with cooler at the moment he doesnt need to.

[benji-charged-vl]

ive heard when your running any amount of psi to a n/a motor the turbo computer is the way to go,the stock ecu cant handle all the extra air goin in neather can the injectors with the extra fuel that needs to b pumped in(check the vl calais website man)sooooo much info on there ay,i changed my stock ecu to a turbo ecu and biger turbo injectors when i supercharged mine man n ran sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttt...you can notice the diferance so yeh try that...........i have also heard of this nistune chips and heard they are awsome aswell...whatever is gonna cost ya less try it man.....2nd hand turbo ecy might b cheaper than the chip so yeh man watever suits you best

[benji-charged-vl]

ecu* i meen lol

[nasty1]

i think he already has the turbo ecu?

[VL Berlina 5speed]

nah i dont have a turbo computer
just deciding more so on which option to go,

$200-$300 for factory comp
or
$400 nistune comp, whats a hundred bucks more....nothing really

i deff think ill go the nistune way now,
much more safer, can get it tuned better and will run better then what the turbo comp will being maxed out basically


Luke do you have to use a turbo computer to convert it to nistune or will a Na computer be fine?
couldnt find much about this

[nasty1]

ah i had the understanding that it was the stock turbo ecu.yeah go the nistune.and 200 300 for a turbo ecu *** that i sold 80% of a turbo conversion for 600 lol

[VN_Luke]

nah an n/a 'puter will do the trick.

Luke do you have to use a turbo computer to convert it to nistune or will a Na computer be fine?
couldnt find much about this