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    hey guys

    just wondering on how many of each VP's were built

    I know there was 111,770 (justcommodores.com.au) (88GreenVN counts 11,949)

    -300 Calais Internationals
    -1,594 HSV's
    -a rare VP senator (5 year ann) only 15 made

    but how many
    -SS?
    -Calais (and Calais with the optioned live diff)
    -Berlina 5L wagons and 5L 5 speeds etc
    -200-300 HSV enhanced cars

    help build the list and tell me what you know

    88GreenVN has helped with his count off, half way throught sorting)
    -VP's in my database 107,595 (this is not how many are made - just what he has recorded)
    -VP Calais = 4305 x2
    -VP Calais V8 = 840 x2
    -VP Berlina = 4464 x2
    -VP Berlina V8 = 685 x2
    -VP Executive = 33743 x2
    -VP Executive V8 = 1832 x2
    -VP Ute = 146 x2
    -VP Ute V8 = 66 x2 (VG aren't they?)

    some more info i stole from 88GreenVN's history thread
    -HSV VP CLUBSPORT = 387
    -HSV VP CLUBSPORT = 65 -5th anniversary
    -HSV VP SPORT WAGON = 43
    -HSV VP SPORT WAGON = 5 -5th anniversary (RARE one was manual)
    -HSV VP SV91 = 103
    -HSV VP +SIX = 82
    -HSV VP MALOO UTILITY = 34
    -HSV VP MALOO UTILITY = 15 -5th anniversary
    -HSV VP SENATOR = 201
    -HSV VP SENATOR = 15 -5th anniversary
    -HSV VP SENATOR 5000i = 136
    -HSV VP SENATOR 5000i = 30 -5th anniversary
    -HSV VP NITRON = 50
    -HSV VP GTS = 130
    -HSV VP +SIX - 1993 = 58
    -HSV VP FORMULA = 67
    -HSV VP CLUBSPORT 5000i = 50

    so far
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    easier to keep track of those flasher optioned cars as they are numbered.

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    OK the VP info I have recorded over the past 3 years.

    VP's in my database 107,595 (this is not how many are made - just what I have recorded)
    VP Calais = 4305
    VP Calais V8 = 840
    VP Berlina = 4464
    VP Berlina V8 = 685
    VP Executive = 33743
    VP Executive V8 = 1832
    VP Ute = 146
    VP Ute V8 = 66

    VP Unknown as to Calais/Berlina/Executive = 64937

    This may help on the ratio factor between models.

    The SS and Exec model and there is no way to tell.
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    Does that include HSV enhanced cars?

    I rang HSV when I bought mine and was told around 200 VP's were enhanced in total, but a breakdown of models was not available yet they received individual build numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 88GreenVN View Post
    OK the VP info I have recorded over the past 3 years.

    VP's in my database 107,595 (this is not how many are made - just what I have recorded)
    VP Calais = 4305
    VP Calais V8 = 840
    VP Berlina = 4464
    VP Berlina V8 = 685
    VP Executive = 33743
    VP Executive V8 = 1832
    VP Ute = 146
    VP Ute V8 = 66

    VP Unknown as to Calais/Berlina/Executive = 64937

    This may help on the ratio factor between models.

    The SS and Exec model and there is no way to tell.
    so your numbers are pretty close. you said you've got 107xxx and i got told 111xxx made so your missing 4000 by my count not 6,500, yes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterOfReality View Post
    Does that include HSV enhanced cars?

    I rang HSV when I bought mine and was told around 200 VP's were enhanced in total, but a breakdown of models was not available yet they received individual build numbers.
    haha really? some would be been crashed now, and we have so many on this forum that there's probably not a hsv enhanced vp we don't know about

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducker85 View Post
    so your numbers are pretty close. you said you've got 107xxx and i got told 111xxx made so your missing 4000 by my count not 6,500, yes?
    The totals are

    Series 1 = 92860
    Series 2 = 19089
    Total = 111949

    This is the audit number of VP's from Holdens.

    The number in my data basre is for a Holden Production Number program I'm working on. I have not finished bashing out all the calculations yet - nor finished the database.

    The numbers have changed a little from when I added the Series 2 VQ's into the VP production time line - and have not got back to it as yet. I'm still chasing the the VL data for the start of VN production over lap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterOfReality View Post
    Does that include HSV enhanced cars?

    I rang HSV when I bought mine and was told around 200 VP's were enhanced in total, but a breakdown of models was not available yet they received individual build numbers.
    The 111949 is the total VP's off the production line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ducker85 View Post
    so your numbers are pretty close. you said you've got 107xxx and i got told 111xxx made so your missing 4000 by my count not 6,500, yes?
    The unknown are the VIN's I've added to know data. I have used "0" in place of the K/L/X.

    I have rebuilt the many thousands of VIN's into the database. As info comes to hand (Ebay is a great place to get VIN's) I replace the zeros with the known data.

    The change from 111949 came about as I change other car VIN's - like the VQ - it reduced the VP's.

    This led me back to the begining of the VN's and the end of the VL's - THe Vn must have started clocking up the counter well before VIN L294000 and more VP's in Amongst the last of the VN's (show room cars for when the VP was released)
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    So do you have the vin's for all 300 calais internationals as well? i know Stealthy wants these to count build numbers n count back an order of build's

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducker85 View Post
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    So do you have the vin's for all 300 calais internationals as well? i know Stealthy wants these to count build numbers n count back an order of build's
    No sorry - I gave Stealthy the Calais V8 build info I had - thats why I had the search data already.
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    ok so does that 840 include the inter, making like 500 standard Calais V8's??

    P.S. Im gonna go thru my street commodore issue's and see what i can find, if this theard popular i'll start more with the info i can find

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducker85 View Post
    ok so does that 840 include the inter, making like 500 standard Calais V8's??

    P.S. Im gonna go thru my street commodore issue's and see what i can find, if this theard popular i'll start more with the info i can find
    The thing is that with just over half unknown - you could estimate that there may have been between 8000 & 9000 Calais's of which 1600 - 1700 would have been V8's....
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    no worrys man im catching on now so you have most of the VIN's but havn't identified whats what calais etc and your missing a few thousand VIN's

    im keen to learn more

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducker85 View Post
    no worrys man im catching on now so you have most of the VIN's but havn't identified whats what calais etc and your missing a few thousand VIN's

    im keen to learn more
    Spot on Yes the data collected to date is sort of half complete.

    But the ratio between the models maybe the best estimate I can give at this time.
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    mate i can get you vin on 3 vp cop cars, all with country pack susspension, a gold vp a series 2 wagon and a late 92 exec with series 2 brakes.

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    I knew someone with a blue VP vacationer (with factory lpg), he stacked it and it's gone to China to be a can of baked beans now

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    so im guessing either they didnt come out as a vacationer, or ive got a vp wearing VN trim ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavoVP View Post
    so im guessing either they didnt come out as a vacationer, or ive got a vp wearing VN trim ?
    I've seen a VP vacationer at the wreckers - scabbed the dash tag from it. It was a creamy blue - not unlike the monaros of 2001
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfoam View Post
    I knew someone with a blue VP vacationer (with factory lpg), he stacked it and it's gone to China to be a can of baked beans now
    this is the point we cant and never will know the true number because we cant account for crushed and recycled vps all that can be assumed is how many rolled of the production line the rest is all possibility
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    theres a beat up vactioner at my dads unit blocks. see it all the time
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    Quote Originally Posted by TVR-161 View Post
    theres a beat up vactioner at my dads unit blocks. see it all the time
    and it's colour is?
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    I have a VP and I think it's great - although I am also thinking of selling her soon too
    OK, so that's 1 VP accounted for.

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