Hints / tips wanted: floor restoration

[savage1987]

Ripped up the carpet in the VN, in the cabin and the boot. I have decided that the sound deadener is coming off, probably both sides, and the floor will be finished in a nice clean coat of white paint.

There is a hell of a lot of prep work to do first.. just wondering if anyone can offer any advice or has undertaken a similar project in the past.

At the moment the plan is:
Chisel off deadener pads from inside cabin
Finish floor with wire wheel
White primer (many spraycans )
Alpine white - again probably spraycans, not sure how many coats I will need and therefore whether it will be worth buying a decent spraygun
Clear??? - want a good finish that can be polished if needed....



Someone tell me if I'm completely off the mark..


Sam

[savage1987]

I have decided I'll need a spraygun for this job. Much cheaper that way.

[centy]

Why?
Why would you do that, vn's sound like you are riding in a tin can at the best of times.
Removing the deadener would make it a real uncomfortable car to be in.
I dought you would have many people want to get in it a second time.

[hakhawk]

Why?
Why would you do that, vn's sound like you are riding in a tin can at the best of times.
Removing the deadener would make it a real uncomfortable car to be in.
I dought you would have many people want to get in it a second time.

its a vn, why would they want to get in it the first time!!



for the deadener, goto bunnings and buy a $20 heatgun, and a scraper.

or, ive seen people have success with dry ice, which is supposed to take the glue off with the deadener(heatgun doesnt do this)


get a lot of prepsol or thinners for cleanup its gonna get messy

[savage1987]

Thanks guys

Centy, because there is weight to be saved! Nobody refined ever rides in my car anyway man
**hopes mrs doesn't read this thread**


I'm hunting for kilograms to ditch. The car will end up being essentially track-spec, aiming for a stint racing later on

[Fun_Bucket]

And i was just about to say, are we go racing?

[savage1987]

In a while, when the car is ready

Still a road car for now.

[greenfoam]

I think hes aiming for the shiny clean race car look, inside and out. Carpet is just old stinky wet dusty dirty mould and virus infested chemicals in the end once you've spent 2 days scarping deadner off you'll realise how evil it is to produce that is too let alone stick it in every car Holden make. I salute Ford for having none in the new eco freindly euro cars. Sure they make a bit of noise bit it's well worth not having it in the car for the weight/fuel/world saving, it's very responsible. P.S only remove the deadner not the calk in the seems since that's all that holds a Commodore together really is that glue

[Morton]

Savage, paint the floor with a big tin and a brush/roller You'll save a lot of money (pressure packs are expensive), and it'll come up fine!

[savage1987]

I think hes aiming for the shiny clean race car look, inside and out. Carpet is just old stinky wet dusty dirty mould and virus infested chemicals in the end once you've spent 2 days scarping deadner off you'll realise how evil it is to produce that is too let alone stick it in every car Holden make. I salute Ford for having none in the new eco freindly euro cars. Sure they make a bit of noise bit it's well worth not having it in the car for the weight/fuel/world saving, it's very responsible. P.S only remove the deadner not the calk in the seems since that's all that holds a Commodore together really is that glue

You're right that's exactly what I'm aiming for. I'm glad somebody understands my newfound hatred for body deadener! I will be careful of the caulk, I hadn't thought of that

Savage, paint the floor with a big tin and a brush/roller You'll save a lot of money (pressure packs are expensive), and it'll come up fine!

That is not a bad idea. Now I just need someone to tell me what primer to use

I've actually been thinking HVLP gun rather than pressure packs, still better to go roller or brush you think Morton?

[ScoHar]

try and get dry ice, its makes it piss easy to do all seems to come up in big clumps rather than tiny little pieces.

[centy]

roller would be better thin the paint a little and you would get a good finish and not overspray.
to reduce weight remove ac, line doors with a thin sheet of aluminium. remove the metal mouldings around the doors on the outside.
upgrade to a vs brake booster, they are plastic.
Make sure you have the small vn brakes on the front a they are smaller and lighter.
all these would save weight.

[1991_Vn2nV]

roller would be better thin the paint a little and you would get a good finish and not overspray.
to reduce weight remove ac, line doors with a thin sheet of aluminium. remove the metal mouldings around the doors on the outside.
upgrade to a vs brake booster, they are plastic.
Make sure you have the small vn brakes on the front a they are smaller and lighter.
all these would save weight.

Seeing as he wants to race the car, I don't think small brakes are much of a reccomendation Is it really worth the weight saving?

[ScoHar]

Or even better sand blast it? depends how deep you want to go.

[rob drag racer]

its a pain in the posterior i did my first vp race car with a heat gun and scraper and will be doing my new vns1 the same way soon as Jason said its bad stuff if you use a heat gun make sure your in a well ventilated area with the windows down and yeh get some thinners or petrol to wash ya hands with after its as hard to get of skin as it is metal especially with just soap and water have fun

[Morton]

1) The best thing to get off the last of the residue, is acetone. Lots of acetone. I'm pretty sure a wire brush will just smudge it.
2) Prime it with a good outdoor rustproof primer. White Knight do a good primer for a decent price, and a 1L can should get you two coats all over.

KEEP IN MIND: If you use 2 litres of paint, that's 2 kilos of weight

I suggest you use acetone on the deadning, which leaves the factory rustproofing intact. Then fish oil the whole thing for rust protection, and once it's dried up, give it one or two coats of White Knight Rustkill Hammertone paint. That stuff does NOT need primer, so you save on paint weight

[AirStrike]

1) The best thing to get off the last of the residue, is acetone. Lots of acetone. I'm pretty sure a wire brush will just smudge it.
2) Prime it with a good outdoor rustproof primer. White Knight do a good primer for a decent price, and a 1L can should get you two coats all over.

KEEP IN MIND: If you use 2 litres of paint, that's 2 kilos of weight

I suggest you use acetone on the deadning, which leaves the factory rustproofing intact. Then fish oil the whole thing for rust protection, and once it's dried up, give it one or two coats of White Knight Rustkill Hammertone paint. That stuff does NOT need primer, so you save on paint weight

Doesn't need primer..........ever read the label or only the front of the can All non-ferrous metals need to be primed with etch primer, so aluminium and its alloys.
Unless your VQ is made from cast iron.........which would account for the extra weight, lol.

[Sami]

Centy, because there is weight to be saved! Nobody refined ever rides in my car anyway man
**hopes mrs doesn't read this thread**

*mrs reads thread*

[savage1987]

LMAO!


aaaah shit


Thankyou morton and company for your input

I will get the deadener off and then decide what I want to do about paint.

[greenfoam]

Forget the fish oil, this is a race spec floor not an old cargo ship, get the deadner off and clean as you can without damaging the zinc or whatever the sheet metal is coated in, then use dexodine to be sure the surface is clean and any rust particles are disolved. Then paint it. Since you wont be using two pack (would have been good on the floor) just use a primer and white acrylic, then it will be easy to polish up and plenty waterproof enough to last about forever

[savage1987]

Thanks Jason

Heat gun and some thinners and a mask will be coming home with me tomorrow I think.

[Bz Kn33z]

i just did it the cheap way and used a chisel, sore hands for some days just get a mate around to help, i think its a good 20-30kg or something in deadner, atleast not sure cant remember, but the sound difference isnt that bad to be honest i didnt notice a big difference, but i am use to it now, but people make it out to be real bad and everything.

[hakhawk]

i just did it the cheap way and used a chisel, sore hands for some days just get a mate around to help, i think its a good 20-30kg or something in deadner, atleast not sure cant remember, but the sound difference isnt that bad to be honest i didnt notice a big difference, but i am use to it now, but people make it out to be real bad and everything.

yeh, going from carpet+deadener+thick foam underlay to metal floor and a thin coat of chassis black on the bmw wasnt too bad. can hear everything hitting the underside, but overall sound isnt too bad during cruising.

[greenfoam]

Thanks Jason

Heat gun and some thinners and a mask will be coming home with me tomorrow I think.

Yes just don't use the heat gun anytime soon after the thinners or you would be inside a very unhappy fireball

[Zuicider]

hehe just light the thinners up or as jason said cut out the floor pan and remake it from clean road signs