Specific tyre choices

[crazybiker]

Alright, I need help deciding on a decent tyre to use.

I always use to run the Pirelli P6000s; Great tyre. Anyway, they've stopped producing them, and it looks like I really need tyres soon.

I'm running 215/60R15, and that's what I wanna stay with.

I was considering the Highway Max's, but apparently you'll only get around 20,000km out of them, and that's nursing.

I'm looking at a compromise of probably about 30,000-40,000km whilst being able to give them a bit (I'm not talking burnouts here), and will keep the car to the road nicely.

[greenacc]

Not sure if they make a goodyear ducaro in that size ? they seem good on my car and last a while.

[greenfoam]

I think if you don't go to the drags and don't smoke them too often you could get highway max's to last a pretty long time, it's just that the people that buy them are not that kind of people so it's a mystery how long they will last . Mine last 3 drag meetings (about 30 passes all with 2nd gear burnouts to warm up) + 5000 road km's with maybe 100 wheelpsin actions from 0-100 and then they are about stuffed. It works out like 1 dollar per skid, good value

[centy]

michelin xm1+
i think is what i got.
holds on even in the wet.
when useing miches when i was a courier we would get 60000km out of them.

[Chirpstr]

Bridgestone Turanza's are great.

[Lost_Pete]

Sorry but I wouldn't recommend Goodyear Ducaros at all. I found them terrible in the wet, unless you like going sideways EVERYWHERE.

I complained and the Tyre Shop swapped them for Dunlops SP300E.

We actually ran the Goodyear Ducaros in a motorkhana and then Dunlops in a motorkhana. Three seconds improvement in times with the Dunlops.

Having said that, the Dunlops have now gone off and they are lacking grip in the wet.

[greenfoam]

There's traction and then threre's traction :P alot of tyres people use that they think are grippy are really only about 10% on the traction scale

[Calais1987]

I use Bridgestone Turanza ER30’s (255/60r/15) on my VL Turbo, since 2002 and find them very good, the I noticed that the cops use on there cars (Commodores) as well

[greenacc]

Sorry but I wouldn't recommend Goodyear Ducaros at all. I found them terrible in the wet, unless you like going sideways EVERYWHERE.
Having said that, the Dunlops have now gone off and they are lacking grip in the wet.

Don't be sorry Pete, i was just putting the idea out there to see what people would say. I've had ducaros on the front for 25000 k's ( these are the 'new' ducaros also by the way). I'll put em on the back and see if i notice them slipping. I expect they will last 50000 easy.
What i know is they are better than RE92's, and loads better than Dunlop Monzas.

[crazybiker]

I think if you don't go to the drags and don't smoke them too often you could get highway max's to last a pretty long time, it's just that the people that buy them are not that kind of people so it's a mystery how long they will last . Mine last 3 drag meetings (about 30 passes all with 2nd gear burnouts to warm up) + 5000 road km's with maybe 100 wheelpsin actions from 0-100 and then they are about stuffed. It works out like 1 dollar per skid, good value

Not really going to the drags, but we do tend to, not slow down for a corner sometimes...if you know what I mean?

With the occasional fast corner here and there, what's the life expectenancy of them?

How much ARE the Highway Maxs?

[sweefu]

Alright, I need help deciding on a decent tyre to use.

I always use to run the Pirelli P6000s; Great tyre. Anyway, they've stopped producing them, and it looks like I really need tyres soon.

I'm running 215/60R15, and that's what I wanna stay with.

I was considering the Highway Max's, but apparently you'll only get around 20,000km out of them, and that's nursing.

I'm looking at a compromise of probably about 30,000-40,000km whilst being able to give them a bit (I'm not talking burnouts here), and will keep the car to the road nicely.

hey mate, i have (or had) p6000's too, didnt they replace them with p6's? One one set of my wheels i've got p6000's and p6's.

[VN Lukey]

i have 15X7 interceptors on my VN and i have fitted Bridgestone Potenza Adrenalin's all round.. man they are a GREAT tyre.. it amazing how well they stick....

they cost me $160 each.. if u want safety and good looks go for em.. they are more of a tuff looking tyre as they are prety fat....

hope i was some help....

[VN Lukey]

oh forgot to mention they are 15/60/225....lol

[greenfoam]

Not really going to the drags, but we do tend to, not slow down for a corner sometimes...if you know what I mean?

With the occasional fast corner here and there, what's the life expectenancy of them?

How much ARE the Highway Maxs?

They are 60-70 bucks each. I wouldn't say they are the best high speed cornering tyre around that's for sure since they are made from normal tyres with normal sidewalls, great traction and I can get around a 90 degree corner at about 85km/h if I take the apex but I'd say there are plenty of expensive tyres that are much better for corners. But you could ask Morton about it because he's the corner man and he uses them for that

[crazybiker]

hey mate, i have (or had) p6000's too, didnt they replace them with p6's? One one set of my wheels i've got p6000's and p6's.

Yeah, they replaced them with the P6s. How do they feel?

[sweefu]

Yeah, they replaced them with the P6s. How do they feel?

Theye feel great mate, as good or better than the p6000's. quite different tread pattern, but still very good tyre, i'd recomend them for sure. though mine are only 205wide

[crazybiker]

Yeah, apparently they don't do them in 215.

Can you squeeze a 225 tyre on the original VN Rim?

[Morton]

Not really going to the drags, but we do tend to, not slow down for a corner sometimes...if you know what I mean?

With the occasional fast corner here and there, what's the life expectenancy of them?

How much ARE the Highway Maxs?

They have a bit more sidewall flex than a more expensive tyre, but for 1/5 of the price you can't complain. They have miles of grip compared to your average daily tyre, but my favourite aspect of Highway Maxs for hill driving is the warning you get at the grip limit. On most surfaces you'll get a good deal of gentle squealing before the tyres understeer.

I get a full set of four 215s fitted for $265, and they last a while. Soft compound, keep in mind, but I got almost a full year out of my fronts, and about 9mths out of my rears Keep in mind this is running a significant amount of camber on the front end, and occasionally locking up into corners. I have probably half a dozen flatspots on each front tyre If you were to not flog it as hard as I do, and maybe run less negative camber, you'd find they'll last you a couple of years at least, depending on kays.

All up, you CAN do better than Highway Max, but you'll be paying at least $200 more per tyre.

[Morton]

Yeah, apparently they don't do them in 215.

Can you squeeze a 225 tyre on the original VN Rim?

You can, but you'll get more sidewall flex than is ideal. It makes for slightly unpredictable cornering, but it's not THAT bad that you'll shit yourself.

[crazybiker]

Well what would you recommend me running then Morton?

205/60R15
215/60R15
225/60R15

Keeping in mind that I'm pretty sure that I'll definitely be running the highway maxs

[greenfoam]

They do vary slighty from batch to batch, sometimes you get some extra sticky ones, but the firt pair I had were 215s and they were great (they have a different tread to the 225s) the 225 looks cooler I guess but I prefer the 215s

[crazybiker]

Please, with the 225 you'll be squeezing them on and getting some extra sidewall flex.

Ok.

Well how much do you reckon it'd cost me to get one of you guys to buy 4 for me and send them up to sydney in a nice little package with a cute bow

[Morton]

The 225s will fit fine. 215s I have found have better channels for handling up the front end, and the 225s give me fantastic launching capabilities off the line. Experiments running the 225s on the front havn't been fantastic, but I could be getting a bit of placebo there.

The four tyres would cost $220 to buy, and freight would probably cost more than you want to spend. Wait for someone to make a road trip up north, and chuck 'em a fiddy to bring the tyres along

[crazybiker]

Well, I don't think it's gonna happen now, as sadly as I want to run the highway maxs. Dads chucking a fit about their life.

How many Kms roughly do you do per year?

[Morton]

50,000km per year.

Keep in mind, mine last for 12mths because I THRASH them through the hills. Hard cornering and negative camber are friends to no tyre

When I had my VP, I ran my first set of Highway Maxxs for almost 80,000km and they were still good when the car was written off.