vs window electrics into vn

[Browny_226]

hi guys, just wanted 2 know if it would be a big job to put VS calais window electrics and regs into a VN exec manual windows ive seen the thread with all the tools and how 2 do it and stuff but more wanted to know what the differences are and if anything needs 2 be changed for them to work propearly in a VN ive also heard sumthin about a body control module and its confused me

cheers!

[rob drag racer]

putting any electric windows in an VN exec is a pain and my opinion not worth the hassle and besides its extra weight lol

[stockies]

Motors from the VS will fit. But the wiring will have to come from a VN. It's a seperate loom and the easiest way to do it. VP to VS have a BCM (body control module) that controls everything: Wipers, power windows, door locks etc.

It's a big job. I've broken/stuffed 2 motors already. You will also need ALL the parts before you start. This is not a "install as i can find it" job.

[Browny_226]

so the idea is electrics out of a vn calais thats the easiest way 2 go? lol and yea i was planning to install it all at once probably even try to get them all working b4 installing but what about if the electrics came out of a vq stato same problems?

thanks 4 the help fellaz

[georgeonboost]

i converted my front windows to power windows. i got the loom from a calais at the wreckers and the regs from a mate. did a little wiring here and there and it was all set. its not as hard as people make it out to be. i thought it was going to be a prick of a job but when i actually did it, wasn't hard at all.

George

[markovr]

The vn/p run a separate loom for the power windows and door locks so it isnt to hard to take the wiring from a wreck and put it in your car with the separate module it should be plug and play if you take all the wiring from the donor car

[Browny_226]

The vn/p run a separate loom for the power windows and door locks so it isnt to hard to take the wiring from a wreck and put it in your car with the separate module it should be plug and play if you take all the wiring from the donor car

so if i wer to get all the wiring and regs out of a vs would i only need to get the module out of a vn/vp (what exactly whould i need from either car)

[dans_vz]

Pull a door trim off mate and look for a little black plug that has two wires going into it, if your lucky it may have that. I pulled apart a VP executive and that had the left and right front door elec window wiring even though it never had electric windows, it would have just needed the power window module added in. And the rear wiring went to the middle pillars with a plug so half of it was already there. I dont know what the wiring setup is in a VN though, hope it might help.

[stockies]

so if i wer to get all the wiring and regs out of a vs would i only need to get the module out of a vn/vp (what exactly whould i need from either car)

From a VN calais of Berlina (fitted with power windows) You will need:
1x Dash loom
1x Power window control module
2x front door wiring looms
2x rear door wiring looms

From any VN to VS:
4x power window regs.

A VN exec will have no pre installed wiring in the doors (Well mine dosen't) and VP's may cos they have central locking. Some VP's also have the window door looms installed. (same loom as c/locking in a series 2 I think)
Also the VR/VS door looms have different plugs, where the meet the dash loom, so if want to use a VR/VS door loom, you will need the other end of the plug and then need to wire it into the VN dash loom.

[Greedy]

I have just put a set of vs electric windows into my vn. It did take me two days to do it gue to the fact i had to work. I just used the wiring harness from the vs and you dont need the BCM just someone who is smart with electrics and understands reverse pole switchs that change the polarity. The window motors have a auto cut off system inbuilt. Works well and i have not had one problem with it

[cameron20020]

would it be easier just to change the whole doors lol?

[Greedy]

lol if they are the same colour!. Remember you need a special tool to remove the door pins.

[Browny_226]

I have just put a set of vs electric windows into my vn. It did take me two days to do it gue to the fact i had to work. I just used the wiring harness from the vs and you dont need the BCM just someone who is smart with electrics and understands reverse pole switchs that change the polarity. The window motors have a auto cut off system inbuilt. Works well and i have not had one problem with it

when you done yours were the wires already running thru the front and back doors coz ive been told its normal to find the electric window wires already there as it was a dealership option not a factory one dunno the truth behind it though

[stockies]

when you done yours were the wires already running thru the front and back doors coz ive been told its normal to find the electric window wires already there as it was a dealership option not a factory one dunno the truth behind it though

Again, If it's got central locking, it's probably got the power window loom fitted inside the doors.

[Browny_226]

cool ill hafta take a look my car does have central locking so im hoping the wires are there the main reason i was askin bout the vs electrics is coz im gettin all electrics, regs and switches for $100 so its abit of a score and im knida tight for cash so i dnt really wonna pass up such a good deal

[Greedy]

no i didnt have any looms as my central looking come with my alarm system.

Electric windows are pretty easy to understand basicaly its a electric motor that has two wires one red the other black. Think of the red wire being positive and black negitive when you press up the circut is connected so the window goes up untill it hits the top of the window frame and puts load on the motor. Vs window motors have a relay which under load cut the circut. Now to make the window go down you press the down button what this does is change the polarity of the wires so now the red wire is negitive and the black becomes positive so the window goes down untill it hits load wich then cuts the circut off.

If you put your own loom just use the connectors of the old loom and buy from dick smith the male to female conectors and a good wire crimper. with your new loom make sure you buy the same colour wires as whats already on the loom helps later on done the track. Use electrical tape to hold the loom together. run your wiring looms down the side sealing panels and into the center console. Ill post full pics up tommorrow step by step to help you out and others.

[Browny_226]

no i didnt have any looms as my central looking come with my alarm system.

Electric windows are pretty easy to understand basicaly its a electric motor that has two wires one red the other black. Think of the red wire being positive and black negitive when you press up the circut is connected so the window goes up untill it hits the top of the window frame and puts load on the motor. Vs window motors have a relay which under load cut the circut. Now to make the window go down you press the down button what this does is change the polarity of the wires so now the red wire is negitive and the black becomes positive so the window goes down untill it hits load wich then cuts the circut off.

If you put your own loom just use the connectors of the old loom and buy from dick smith the male to female conectors and a good wire crimper. with your new loom make sure you buy the same colour wires as whats already on the loom helps later on done the track. Use electrical tape to hold the loom together. run your wiring looms down the side sealing panels and into the center console. Ill post full pics up tommorrow step by step to help you out and others.

Cheers bloke ur a champion hope this doesnt turn out as hard as some make it sound lol

[Greedy]

Everyone ill start the electric window converstion to my mates vn using vs electrics tommorrow ill post pics and step by step info.

[Browny_226]

its a shame this never got posted its all good though i done the mod they work well

[Browny_226]

its not too hard a mod actually i did hafta get all the calais looms though... theres a thread on here that helped alot i cant seem to find it now though