my vp duel fuel

[nuskoolVP]

hey pplz..
was just asking for some tips about my vp..
itz on dual fuel
but i want to take out the gas tank n everything that comes with it for my car just to run on petrol..
i want to do this because i want to deck out my boot with sum amps n subwooferz
but was just wondering who or how can i get it taken out from my car...??
do i hav to take it to a special mechanic or anything? pplz let me know...
i want to remove it asap

[DavoVP]

Arent we the smart cookie..................You want to get rid of something that will save you thousands a year on fuel bills, to replace it with something that will send you def or get you unwanted attention from the fuzz............


Short answer you can remove it your self,

Even better answer you can STILL run some fully sick subwoofer and keep ya gas tank.......... Ive done it in mine, works great, got some sounds and some nice cheap fuel bills........

[Dum*P*ster]

outa curiosity , how cheap a year would it be to have one?

[levymetal]

gas will halve your fuel bill. so if you currently spend $60 a week on petrol, you'll be spending $30 a week on gas. that's $1560 in your pocket each year. i save ~$2500 a year.

and yes you can still have a good sound system with a gas tank, this was my last car:


my new car isn't so crazy but i still have a sub (and gas). unless you want da fulli sik twin 7000w 15s mdf carbon fibre blue light broski setup, you'll be ok with gas.

[skruba]

just clean your boot up like levys looks clean

[nuskoolVP]

yeah my mate came to have a look at my boot lastnite n told me that you can easily block off the gas exactly the way urs has been done..also yurz is mad..
the two onli reasons i wanted the gas out was for the system koz i thought my boot wasnt gona be big enuff but obviously wasnt looking properly n the uther was the car lacks in power with gas..any suggestions on how to fix that???
n any tips on basic things to help my car with power my mate told me about cat back system exhaust..any utha tips??i dont want to turn my car intu a 10second dash or nefin just basic good performance n power..i am going to leave the gas in but just anything to improve power??

[nuskoolVP]

levy metal wat this twin 7000w 15s mdf carbon fibre blue light broski setup u tawkin bout???..awesum pik same idea my mate was giving me to do with my car...any utha piks?

[i'm timmy]

If you get your car tuned proply on gas it will make the same if not more on gas than petrol!

[DavoVP]

Yeah dude, just get it tuned, The gas system's especaly the mixer system like youd have do slowly go out of tune with time.. any good gas mechanic will be able to do it for you.

[levymetal]

for power, do the following (in this order as well)
new spark plugs and leads (it is imperative that you have a good powerful spark for gas)
cold air intake
foam tune (search for nicefrog on ebay, or greenfoam on these forums)
gas tune (done at any gas mechanic as above)

anything else will be big $$$ for little gain, not worth it IMO.

this is the only other photo i have. i sold that car so i can't take any more photos unfortunately. this is before i changed the amps, that purple one blew up when i tried to use it.


i'll get some more photos of my new car when my batteries are charged, i only have 1 amp but it still gives you an idea of what you can do .

[rob drag racer]

defiantly a good tune makes the difference and from memory a gas ecu tune from one of the tuners here will help a lot but be sure to do as was stated first (plugs leads ) ect

and be sure to run gas from a reputable service station not safe ways or any other budget chain alike

[levymetal]

here is a photo of the setup in my new car. as i said, not as crazy, but definitely not impossible to run a decent sound system with gas . you only need 2 amps, a 4ch and a monoblock. i don't even have a 4ch because i run my speakers off the headunit, but that's pretty average and i wouldn't recommend doing it. you could run dual subs if you wanted, but then you'd have no boot space at all. get a decent 12 inch and that's all you'll need though.

[nuskoolVP]

thanks heaps for all them tips...

im definitely get those things done n in that order as well..
my mate even told me to get the exhaust done as well cat back system or something
so would i do that last from allthat order u told me..

man the tips have helped heaps cause i had no clue wat to do
besides sound system..

the pics r awesum to givez me a good idea of how it could be done.

just one question howu much is it gona cost for the new s plugs
also isnt green foam some dude on here that i always see in threads or is it a product as well??

[WogBoyz]

id get pacemakers to a 2.5 catback man, then get it tuned

[rob drag racer]

yes greenfoam is a member here and plugs are cheep as well lol

[levymetal]

haha nah get the exhaust before the gas and greenfoam tune. i put the list in that order so that all your mods are done before you get it tuned. this is because the tune needs changes with any mods you make to it, so doing the exhaust after will require another tune. gas might be ok, but i would think the car would do best being gas tuned to the mods that are on it. the full throttle and idle settings would be slightly different with an exhaust i guess. definitely 100% needs to be done before a greenfoam tune though if you want to get the best out if it (and you do)

[nuskoolVP]

thankkz man

ive written down the order including exhaust system before the tune upz..

do u wat exhaust system i shud get done iwthout it sounding lyk cop bait..
oh also wen i get tha cai done i shud get that k&n pod filter yeah?..
my mate told me i shud...


any utha tips that missing i could get done..including for the inside of my car..
im going to debadge it or either get new chrome ones

[levymetal]

just get a 2.5 inch catback with a muffler and a resonator, plenty on ebay if you're game to fit it yourself (it's easy).

don't get a pod filter, it is 'common knowledge' that pod filters increase power, however i'd say that's more of a myth. you will need to completely seal the pod filter off from the engine bay in order for it to be more effective that the standard airbox you have now. if you just get a pod filter and stick it in your engine bay, it will suck up warm air. warm air is bad because it is less dense than cold air, which means there is less oxygen in the same volume of air. less oxygen = less power.

there is also sufficient proof on this forum that the standard cheap panel filters you can buy flow more than enough for a relatively stock v6 anyway. the guys who run the fastest unopened v8s still run cheap panel filters . so just get a cold air intake, mod your existing airbox to fit it, and grab yourself a new panel filter and you'll be laughing

[nuskoolVP]

ohk i understAND..i'l chek it out bout the exhaust if it looks okay
n i understand properly i'l do it myself..or just get my mates to help me..
wats a panel filter?..sorry if that sounds like is a stupid question..
howz ur vp and ever hav any major problems that bugged ya..
i onli recently became attached to loving vp's this year so i bought one..

[nuskoolVP]

also levymetal that sound system in yur new car..did yu make that subwoofer box yurself or was alredi like that..also wat brand is it i cant see the brand...
the set up looks good..

[levymetal]

as for problems, hmm, don't get me started . mine's a v8 though so it's going to have different problems to yours.

a panel filter is just a flat one. pod filter is round (well sorta tapered, you get the picture though). you should currently have a panel filter if you have a big black box behind your passenger headlight. inside that, you'll have something like this (colour doesn't matter, green looks cool though)



my new car, nah that sub comes in a pre-fabricated box. cadence. this particular model was manufactured in 1999, 10 years pumping and it somehow still works . maybe the previous owners didn't use it much. i bought it off ebay, thought i was getting a good deal for $100, only to find out it was 10 years old afterwards. there's a story to be learnt here: BUY CAR AUDIO STUFF BRAND NEW! the markup on car audio is crazy anyway, my headunit was ticketed at $400, mate works at jb sold it to me for cost, $200... so you can always get a good deal

the whole setup is less than average though. the sub and amp are well matched at 300wRMS, which i thought would be loud enough, but it's not really. i would recommend something like 500wRMS. my mate (same jb mate) has an alpine type r and that thing pumps... doesn't take up any more space than mine either . as for an amp well any monoblock putting out over 500wRMS will do, but i would stick to branded stuff.

[nuskoolVP]

oh dam i just found i cant reali mod anything to my engine or car on my red p's..diz new law is bulshyt...
but i think you can stil put a catback system on your car wen on yur red p's..
im thinking i'l end up getting it done anyway or can mechanics turn yu down nowadayz wen they know yur on yur red p's?...

[levymetal]

the exhaust is the only real mod that is illegal. you won't get pinged for the cold air intake... i doubt a cop would say "hey this car didn't come factory with a cold air intake". air filter, spark plugs and leads are normal items, your car needs them to run. i also doubt that a mechanic would turn down work, it's not their problem if it's legal for you or not . having said that you don't need a mechanic to do any of those things. if you can fill your car up with fuel then you can change your spark plugs, leads, install a chip, and add a cold air intake.

[nuskoolVP]

serious.. i was told that i wouldnt be able to hav a cold airintake
i know i can stil change the plugs n leads..
but one of my mates rekons ur allowed to hav an exhaust system just not a loud one
n i was on anuther forum where ppl were also sayin u can hav it done to yur..
to me honestly i would get it al done anyway i doubt the cops would pull me over tell me your car is way too illegal...cause i hav a mate thats driving hes r32 skyline with a million mods even has turbo n hes been pulled but theyve told not to just speed which is funny...

i seen him the utha nite and couldnt believe he had hes red p's even on i would hav them off...but it still funny...

but can u still get it lowered i not sure bout that one...
but saying all this and what you said you wouldnt get a road worthy done on yur red p's with all those mods on your car ryt??....u'll get it done after a roadworthy

[skruba]

you can lower it just not gut scrapingly low exhaust and other small mods are fine they wont bother with them unless your being an idiot or there an arse