bullshit power windows >.<

[PUSHIN]

heyy guys, sure this has been covered 1000 times before before, but meh. did a quick search didnt find anything, my drivers window will go down and up (So my motors fine..) however, the arms keep popping out, and its a f_ckin bitch to get it back up.. (i've come to the conclusion that it fkd up because of the rubber on the guide lip at the back of the door for the window, as it frequently folds to the inside, therefore putting allot of pressure on the window, making it harder to go up..) when the window first broke, i pulled the door card off, spent an hour putting the steel arms back in the little plastic thing, then putting the plastic thing which is attatched to the arm back in the window guides at bottom of the window (never done it before, but it had to go up, an we were at the beach for the night which didnt help..) it would still go up and down, but would need help as it would get so far, then get jammed at the front, but the back would keep trying to go up. now the arms are both out again, and i got the window back up, and somehow its staying.. would the arms be bent? should i go to the wreckers and purchase new ones?? and my rear drivers window wont go down period. havent had a look at it though, my mechanic thought it was the switch, so he replaced that, but apparently forgot to test it cause it still dont work.. if a motor is buggered, will it do anything at all? like try to get the window down a little bit? or make a noise? cause its just doing nothing.... :/ and its freakin hot aye! would be nice to get all my dam windows down instead of just the passanger side.

Thanks guys

Edit; this probably makes no sense... basicly, the arms keep popping out on the drivers window, are they bent? should i replace them? and rear window wont do anything at all, power fault? motor fault?

[accentstencil]

Replace the nylon runners (those plastic things), only $3-$4 each and I'm sure it will fix the problem.

[david dubbo]

Has anyone else got like a delay in their electric windows 3 windows are perfect but the drivers window occasionally when you press the switch it takes about 5-10 seconds before it will go up

[K3zBang]

Check this thread out David_Dubbo.

Power Window Failure

[PUSHIN]

so u can guarentee, that my window wont get jammed if i replace the little plastic things that arent broken at all? O.o if so, will do (keeping in mind, the problem first occured because the rubber lining at the back of the door where the window slots in had folded in putting pressure on the window, causing the arm at the back to pop out of the plastic jigga, which i have put it back in, but its as if my arm is bent or something.. every time i put the window up it gets jammed half way and i have to put it up n down like 20 times, then help it up by hand..)

[accentstencil]

so u can guarentee, that my window wont get jammed if i replace the little plastic things that arent broken at all? O.o if so, will do (keeping in mind, the problem first occured because the rubber lining at the back of the door where the window slots in had folded in putting pressure on the window, causing the arm at the back to pop out of the plastic jigga, which i have put it back in, but its as if my arm is bent or something.. every time i put the window up it gets jammed half way and i have to put it up n down like 20 times, then help it up by hand..)

I can't guarantee anything. Although the nylon runners are not broken they do wear after a while causing problems. If you think the rubber thing is to blame then replace it.

[mlakr]

like normal i have a vy, my drivers side window, wont go up or down, how do i take the door trim of, and any sugestions, on how to change the motor or rotor,
any help will be appreciated

[PUSHIN]

okay, so im going to change the "nylon runners" as said earlier, but my rear window wont move at all, it wont do anything, the switch's have been replaced but it still wont work, any suggestions on what may be wrong? would it be the motor? should i just replace it? Cheers.

[PUSHIN]

alriighty then.. so as i thought, my issue with the front window was a bit more then nylon runners, the arm that points forward, was bent about a inch toward the outside of the car, so i pulled it out and bend it to be relatively straight, has a small kink in it but we'll see how it goes over the next couple of days, however i did also replace the nylon runners. i've also but a rear power window motor from a wrecker, cost me $55, im assuming they dont know that it works, because they pulled it out of a shitbox right infront of me. -.-' will see how that goes also.

[PUSHIN]

okay so i have come to testing my front power window, however the window is sliding forward from the back kind of.. like the top back of the window actually comes out of the place its meant to run in, by almost an inch i guess, how do i stop this? i assumed it was a matter of moving the little steel peice that the bottom runner goes into, but i had a fiddle, moved it up and down and stuff, and it'd help, but then i'd do something else and it'd go back to how it was, just seems like a pain in my ass, are they all at the same spot? if so can anyone tell me where? but i also am aware, this could be because the arm was bent, i have bent it back but didnt do the best job. which do you's think it is? Cheers guys

[PUSHIN]

okay not impressed at all. i had this feeling that changing the motor wouldn't fix the rear window. i was right. xD how convenient. so i'm assuming i'll need to replace the module mentioned in the "power window failure" thread linked above. i've called wreckers about it, one said $55, and the other said $65 with some key or something? mine had something hard over it, like coke or something but not sticky. only a very thin film, and not covering the whole thing. so would this module be the problem? considering that its only the rear right window that won't go down?

[MILD]

I'm interested in this as well.

I'm wonderig if my module is shagged as well. The fact one of the windows works makes me think that it's good to go, but perhaps its possible for the module to be partially stuffed and still allow one window to work? Anyone know for sure?

[PUSHIN]

yeah i'd rather someone be able to give an opinion on wheather this is the issue or not before i just go and buy one, cause if i find out i've bought one for no reason i'll be a bit upset, as i was with the window motor but i'm a bit confused as my other three windows work fine now.. just the rear right.. :/ if anyone could give some idea's would be great!

Edit; Also, after doing a little bit of research, i've found that the "BCM" that i was meant to get a key with, most probably isn't what i want, as i've found pictures of them with the key included, turns out the key is actually a proper car key.. and i've had a bit of trouble when doing searches for one to suit a vn, however i found them for vr's and i think vp's.. so i'm going to assume that it isn't what i want.. from what i know of.. i'm chasing after the module mentioned in Power Window Failure .. so anyway, can somebody tell me exactly what this "power window module" found underneath the steering collumn does, and what this "body control module" does? Thanks guys.

[MILD]

Mate do what I've done- got to Supercheap and pick up some electrical wire and some clamps. Make yourself a set of jumper leads with spade terminals and go direct from the battery to the motor. That'll soon tell you if its the motor itself or something else. If the motor is fine, use a multimetre to check that you have power at the plug.

From what I found today, the biggest problems lie with the cable and the spool it's on. One of my cables was stretched and beyond useless because it would jump off the spool and jam up. The other just needed a good clean and it came good.

While your at it, give every plug a good hit with contact cleaner.

So far I've had a lot of success today- now I just need to find a replacement cable!

[PUSHIN]

it isn't the issue with the motor, as i've already replaced it, i'll try have a look over the wiring to see if thats it.. but im thinking its the module..

Edit; Oooh, its neither of those things.. this window had never worked, i tried the child lock thing, still never worked, i just swapped my switches to find they both work fine in the rear left window (after i turned the child lock off) so anyway, i put one back in the right window, and what i have found is that when i press up, the window goes down. :S and is stiff when it tries to go up, i'll try lubricate the running parts of the motor, and see if that has an effect.. but as for it opperating the wrong way, how do i make it go down when i press down instead of up? :S What could this be?

Thanks guys!