v6 6 speed vn

[PUSHIN]

hey guys, i'm wondering if i can get a 6 speed for my vn; to my knowledge, the vz sv6 manuals come with a 6 speed, (found one of these particular gearbox's for approx $1500) could i see an engineer and get something done to make it fit? or is there some other sort of box i can get? also; i've been thinking about getting a minispool. i understand they're not the safest option, and people say you burn tires if with them, but i've also heard if your sensible your tires last.. can anyone input on the cons/pro's of minispools compared to lsd's? and im also thinking 3.9 diff gears.. opinions pls?

[_R_J_K_]

It will cost far more that the $1500 of the gear box. Custom bellhousing, custom flywheel, custom clutch setup, most likely a custom tailshaft, custom tune, custom crossmember and mounts. If you want a manual, it would be much easier and cheaper to just do a T5 conversion. In my mind having a 6th gear for a stock 6 would just be a waste of money.

[Morton]

Unless you were a prude about fuel economy, already had excellent under car splitters and boarded up wheel arches

[TVR-190]

what rjk said, as for spool there was a big thread about it here the other day so have a look for it

[jayy]

3.9s and manual is no good. good ratio is 3.45 with a spool i recon. pros good skids fun to slide around. cons risk snapping axles gearbox input shafts if it is a solid rear end you will be chopping out upper control arm bushes but apart from that. also just get a t5 they are a real tuf little box borgwarner are the best i recon. easier and cheaper. good luck

[PUSHIN]

the following makes me sound like an asshole; but i didnt mean it to sound that way, i just cant be bothered changing it. i fully understand what your saying, and i will infact listen to you, i was just saying i found the gearbox itself for $1500; i knew i'd be looking atleast $2000 for it, if not more. but now it just sounds like far too much work, i might do it one day, but not anytime soon. -- R J K did you think maybe if i was going to spend over $3000 between my engine and the wheels, wouldnt there be a few things going in the engine too? :P it would be pointless adding all of that to a stock engine as you said, but i dont plan on leaving my engine stock; i was originally thinking the t5. but i just wanted to see what a 6 speed was going to need to be put in; sounds like its gonna cost a fair bit so i'll settle for a t5 for now. yeah i knew about the axles, but what you mean about gearbox input shafts and the solid rear stuff? & i read through a thread the other day about spools. what i read there made me think why not, just wanted some other opinions i suppose do i needa do anything else if i get a spool? cause i found a joint in Dande that sells em for $90, and puts them in for an additional fee; does anyone know roughly what the maintenance should cost me/whats involved/could i do it myself??

also, i understand an lsd will cost me about $500, if not more. whats better for my money? the spool or lsd. (taking into account the spool might **** this and that up every so often, but if i **** the lsd its gonna cost so much to get fixed and shit.. ya know...) sorry to make shit a pain in the ass for yous lol but im just tryin to learn as much as i can, try get the best i can out of my car.

Cheers

[_R_J_K_]

R J K did you think maybe if i was going to spend over $3000 between my engine and the wheels, wouldnt there be a few things going in the engine too? :P it would be pointless adding all of that to a stock engine as you said, but i dont plan on leaving my engine stock

Even then, I would go for a T56 instead of the VE V6 6 speeds. Just remember, you can build up a T5 as well.

What are you planning to do?

[aztech01]

A reco lsd will last depending what diff joints do it plus its a 100 times better than a spool no skipping doesn't attract cops plus in the wet you don't always have to be alert of the camber of the raod if it's your daily get a lsd if its just a burnout car get a spool. But if you decided to get a spool i tell you the waht you get included in the package kills ur tail shaft kills your tyre plus the amount of stress on the engine and axles is huge a Bonus with the spool every bolt will up on you over time your trailing arm bolts will be lose ur tail shaft bolts will losen up and same with your lower control arm.
My mate had a reco lsd in his ute it didn't single once and at least 25-30 pairs of tyre when on the rear and it didnt single once

But at the end of the day it what you want

Also if you do alot of freeway driving get 3.45 or 3.7 gears
If not 3.9 will be fine just remember to get your speed o re calibrated when you get the gear put in as it will throw it our 10 20 ks depending what gears you chose

[padrickz88]

lsd or spool..... Ask ourself this
How often do you do circles? often = spool, not often = lsd
Lsd's are alright for straight lines and skating it.
Also with a spool, you can drive it daily but it all depends what you like, if you are a person who can give up a little comfort (until you learn to drive with it) for the advantges it gives, i say go the spool..........
If your worried about a bit of tyre skipping, get the lsd

aztech, The bolts in all the components you mentioned where fine in my car after a year and all tight as the day i put the diff in? So I wouldn't go saying a spool rattles all your bolts loose lol

[Bz Kn33z]

I have a Mini spool and 3.9s in a manual VN and i think its good i would preffer 3.7s but 3.9s are more common and i havnt snapped an axle yet, but i have notice the bushes in the back are on there way out, but they wernt the best in the first place, My speedo is out of wack but at 2500RPM i am sitting on 120Kph so i think maybe 20kph out so 2500 at 100kph and thats not to bad, as for take off i did a 0-60 on the gtech in 6.700sec mind you i have done some things to get it that low but its not hard at all.

[purrVN]

i've been thinking about getting a minispool. i understand they're not the safest option, and people say you burn tires if with them, but i've also heard if your sensible your tires last..

who the hell is sensible with a 'spool in the rear??? kinda defeats the purpose... i say def go with the lsd

[PUSHIN]

i wont be doing many circles i recon, and i dont really mind a bit of tire skipping, but mm, spose i might just go for an lsd with 3.7 gears, and a t5.. im thinking i'll get my gearbox, and everything in the diff, and mags all at once, then take it to get my speedo recalibrated. like just do it all in one hit.. means i gotta wait longer but ohwell. saves difficulties :/ oh this is like, wayy off topic and all, but im after a vn group a front bumper.. whats my best bet on getting one? (i've seen them on ebay, but for like $450, then i gotta get it posted.. how much would a genuine/second hand genuine one cost me? :/) cheers.

Edit; oh. and dual exhausts.. the rear bumper i got has a second hole in it, looks stupid. what will it take to get duel exhausts? (sure, its easier too fix the hole. but i'd rather have two exhausts :P) dont want anything loud, quiter the better aye

[_R_J_K_]

:/ oh this is like, wayy off topic and all, but im after a vn group a front bumper.. whats my best bet on getting one? (i've seen them on ebay, but for like $450, then i gotta get it posted.. how much would a genuine/second hand genuine one cost me? :/) cheers.

Edit; oh. and dual exhausts.. the rear bumper i got has a second hole in it, looks stupid. what will it take to get duel exhausts? (sure, its easier too fix the hole. but i'd rather have two exhausts :P) dont want anything loud, quiter the better aye

Your looking into the thousands for a genuine Group A kit. I've heard that a lot of eBay kits are pretty dodge, google Sydney Special Vehicles. They do fibre glass reproductions. They are expensive, but I haven't heard anything bad about them. I can't really vouch for them though.

Dual exhausts is a custom job too. I think one side of the fuel tank is in the way, so a bit of work has to be done. Don't expect much change out of even a $1000. You might even loose power at the moment. I'd just fix the hole.

[PUSHIN]

yeah i figured i'd have to have a drop tank put in, as yeah, the tank is right in the way, but i've seen a vn with duel exhausts and a drop tank before. but yeah might leave that for a while.

im not after the whole group a kit, that would cost an arm and a leg :P i only want the front bumper, i was only wondering if i could get a genuine front bar for under $650 cheers

[kniever]

where the exhaust normally exits the rear of the car, you can get it split off into 2 and run along just behind the bumper to the other hole

[PaRaDoX]

who the hell is sensible with a 'spool in the rear??? kinda defeats the purpose... i say def go with the lsd

the only diffrence between a spool and a lsd is the lsd unlocks when there is no torque going to the wheels.

its sure as hell more predictable than a single spinner... i had a lsd in my vn and vp and never had a issue,

[PUSHIN]

thanks allot guys appreciate all the help. thinking i might try the spool out.. hell if i dont like it i can always change yeah? thanks everybodyy.