91 VN+15k

[Red Ranger]

Gday everyone
Im new as you can no doubt tell and i am presented with a decision you can help with..
Slap a stage 2 SRE 3800 an a raptor pro street tuner kit in the old vn..
Or buy a new car?
From wat i can see on the interwebs, the 1st option should give more than 250kw.. But legal?

[Red Ranger]

ahhhh yes... I see

[nathanVY]

buy a vz

[redvsberlina]

if it was me i would blow 5 on a raptor kit and buy a track car they seem to all hover around 10k

but you should hunt out a ls1 and put it in for some fun 15k would get one of them in

[Red Ranger]

Not too keen on 8's anymore...
Tho it could be an easy way out i guess...
All good ideas go guys and i hope to see more

[levymetal]

for 15k you could eaaaassily put a cammed ls1 in your car which would shit all over the blown SRE motor. ls1 is faster, smoother, sounds better, more drivable, more reliable...

such a waste of money spending 7 grand on just a v6 engine alone. keep in mind these are only about as fast as a 5ltr which will cost you 1.5k to get in your car anyway. some guy had one on here and after a short while it dropped a valve. motor ruined.

and don't forget, you can't just 'slap' a SRE motor and charger into your car. the SRE motors are built NA so they have high comp, so you really won't get the best out of your charger. you'd need a custom built engine with low comp that's ready to be charged. not to say they won't do it, but probably more $$$...

otherwise if you don't want a v8 i would choose the 'buy a new car' option. if you spend 15k on a charged v6 you will most likely cry at the end result when you still get ripped to shreds by tune only ls1's.

other options:
- charge stock motor (will be faster than NA SRE motor)
- rb30 conversion (win)

[TVR-190]

sell the vn and get a vx ss. much easier

[Red Ranger]

Well the SRE 3800 package i have in mind is under 4k and its rated an ready for 10psi,
The raptor kit is also under 4k and manages 10psi,
Together they should manage between 275 and 300kw.. good gains seeing as its only half that at the moment....

If i go ahead with it i wont give a f*** when an ls1 beats me on the quarter on the rare chance i would bother going to the drags..

I prefer v6's as i have already stated, so i want a f****in good v6 for drift meets and everyday driving..

As it stands (with my preferances in mind) its either carry out this option or go for a jap import...

Thanx for your input tho i know you mean well and dont want me to make the wrong decision...
Keep going tho lol u may change my mind

[scouser king]

for 15k you could eaaaassily put a cammed ls1 in your car which would shit all over the blown SRE motor. ls1 is faster, smoother, sounds better, more drivable, more reliable...

such a waste of money spending 7 grand on just a v6 engine alone. keep in mind these are only about as fast as a 5ltr which will cost you 1.5k to get in your car anyway. some guy had one on here and after a short while it dropped a valve. motor ruined.

and don't forget, you can't just 'slap' a SRE motor and charger into your car. the SRE motors are built NA so they have high comp, so you really won't get the best out of your charger. you'd need a custom built engine with low comp that's ready to be charged. not to say they won't do it, but probably more $$$...

otherwise if you don't want a v8 i would choose the 'buy a new car' option. if you spend 15k on a charged v6 you will most likely cry at the end result when you still get ripped to shreds by tune only ls1's.

other options:
- charge stock motor (will be faster than NA SRE motor)
- rb30 conversion (win)

That guy would be me and engine is back and blown looking over 250wkw on dyno in next week or to.JUST BUY A GOOD DAM V8 AND HAVE DONE with.

[scouser king]

Well the SRE 3800 package i have in mind is under 4k and its rated an ready for 10psi,
The raptor kit is also under 4k and manages 10psi,
Together they should manage between 275 and 300kw.. good gains seeing as its only half that at the moment....

If i go ahead with it i wont give a f*** when an ls1 beats me on the quarter on the rare chance i would bother going to the drags..

I prefer v6's as i have already stated, so i want a f****in good v6 for drift meets and everyday driving..

As it stands (with my preferances in mind) its either carry out this option or go for a jap import...

Thanx for your input tho i know you mean well and dont want me to make the wrong decision...
Keep going tho lol u may change my mind

They are no good for a daliy drive.I have there stage 5 motor with a powerdyne blower and its nosiey/ lumpy as hell = shit city driving.

[MasterOfReality]

Have you budgeted for other driveline components and upgrades that may be required if you want to keep it legal?

A charger isn't legal unless its engineered. A lot of companies seem to go strangely quiet when asked about adr or epa compliance for their kits.

They are available but cost a shitload due to the testing that goes into it.

Personally, I wouldn't waste that cash on a V6. I'd go for the LSX conversion or jap import.

[levymetal]

That guy would be me and engine is back and blown looking over 250wkw on dyno in next week or to.JUST BUY A GOOD DAM V8 AND HAVE DONE with.

haha yeah forgot your username . good to hear it's going again, but i like your advice even though you still have the v6. this man knows the pain of trying to make a fast v6, i would hate to know how much you've spent (both time and money)

Together they should manage between 275 and 300kw..

where are you getting those numbers from? rwkw or fwkw? something is not right there.

[scouser king]

QUOTE=levymetal;1488158]haha yeah forgot your username . good to hear it's going again, but i like your advice even though you still have the v6. this man knows the pain of trying to make a fast v6, i would hate to know how much you've spent (both time and money)[/QUOTE]

Its like trying to get blood out of stone.It would be well over 10k, but iam at the point where i just dont care anymore.I will finish the vp and just dont care about the money or gf cost anymore

[Weapon]

if i were you id drop a 2jzgte with aftermarket turbos, intercooler, and auto trans.

my 1.5jzgte is sitting at 220rwkw - with 9psi. ; with a tune and new fuel pump + injectors itll hit 320rwkw on 12psi.

depending on what state your in will decided how hard/easy it will be to register. here in sa its near impossible so thats why i just bought a manual soarer...

[scouser king]

if i were you id drop a 2jzgte with aftermarket turbos, intercooler, and auto trans.

my 1.5jzgte is sitting at 220rwkw - with 9psi. ; with a tune and new fuel pump + injectors itll hit 320rwkw on 12psi.

depending on what state your in will decided how hard/easy it will be to register. here in sa its near impossible so thats why i just bought a manual soarer...

maybe so,but were talking about the buick motor

[Red Ranger]

Lol u all make good points, but god damnit i still wanna do it (sigh)... Looks like im just gunna wait a couple months an get a R32, S14 or VL

[scouser king]

Lol u all make good points, but god damnit i still wanna do it (sigh)... Looks like im just gunna wait a couple months an get a R32, S14 or VL

BUY A V8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Red Ranger]

King i really dont want a V8.. Unless its a Hk Monaro or a gemmy with a twin turb'd 253 lol lol.. The hk aint gunna happen unless i catch a leprachaun an the gemmy is a clown of an idea

[scouser king]

King i really dont want a V8.. Unless its a Hk Monaro or a gemmy with a twin turb'd 253 lol lol.. The hk aint gunna happen unless i catch a leprachaun an the gemmy is a clown of an idea

Ok then,if you go with SRE engine and supercharge it, you will need a fresh gear box with a good shift kit (Transgo) a lsd with a good set of gear and good free flowing system.All this is not cheap.My gear box lasted about 3 months lol

[sik_dose]

A VN is an old bad car. VN + 15K does not make it a good car all you get is a fast bad car. With 15K you could buy something alot better, newer and safer and at the end of the day just as fast.

[Red Ranger]

Ok please give me better options... And not V8 options...

[immortality]

A VN is an old bad car+ 15K does not make it a good car all you get is a fast bad car

a VN may be a old car but that doesn't make it a bad car. if you don't have a constructive comment to make howz about you keep em to yourself

[scouser king]

a VN may be a old car but that doesn't make it a bad car. if you don't have a constructive comment to make howz about you keep em to yourself

[Red Ranger]

I did think the feedback would have been a little better... I see people working up plenty of 3800's on this site, so i do find it strange to get so many people against the idea..
I dont doubt that king is not happy with his product so far, but i do have a differant stage sre and a differant supercharger kit in mind,
I admit i dont know a great amount about this sh*t.. But maybe kings setup is a little too much..
Bugger it tho, i am sticking with the vn, maybe not as powerful as first planned But i figure if i spend the price of a new car on working an old one, then i will be more satisfied...
Thanx for trying to help anyway

[scouser king]

Ok please give me better options... And not V8 options...

Maybe you could put a nissan RB 25/30 in there.