Changing panhard rod.. on a car that doesn't run....

[PUSHIN]

okay, So my car has the vt clubby rear bar.. and a set of ultra low's under the rear.. there is NO WAY i am getting my ramps under there... PLUS the car doesnt run, so i can't use the idea of putting peices of wood before the ramps or whatnot, and besides.. considering it doesnt run, getting it on ramps would be a fun job in itself... so does anyone have any idea's on how i'd go about changing my panhard rod? this may sound a bit stupid, or difficult, or both.. but could i just change the rod while my car is on the ground..? anyone have any ideas for me?

Thanks allot guys.

[somefool]

jack up the car, insert chassis stand ( or big block of wood). do to all 4 corners till you get your desired height?

[Clutchy]

Why not just get going b4 ya change the panhard ? Or ya could just get a good jack and jack the car up untill the ramps fit under or like somefool has said just use jack stands.

[PUSHIN]

well yeah.. guess i could get it running before i do the rod, but its just a shit of a car, and i can see getting it running will be a pain in the ass. however i probably should. i think i'll just go for jacking it up and trying to put the ramps under while its jacked up, i was originally thinking about it, just debating wheather the jacks i can get hold of will lift it high enough..

And uhm, i cant use chassis stands, because to my knowledge, to adjust the panhard rod my wheels have to have the cars weight on them..

I actually read on a thread somewhere about jacking it up, and chucking some wheels under the rear wheels of the car as a meathod of support.. but when i asked about this at the place i bought the rod from, he told me it wasnt a good idea. i didnt question him, but does anyone know why this would be a bad idea? O.o

(sorry guys.. im not really with it atm, i hope all of this make sense.) Thank you very much! much appreciated

[Darcon666]

Couple of question... You say you have a VT Clubby...

1. Series 1 or 2
2. With or without IRS???

Now I could be wrong... cause the reason I ask is that I don't believe the VT has a Panhard rod.

[bj42turbo]

Couple of question... You say you have a VT Clubby...

1. Series 1 or 2
2. With or without IRS???

Now I could be wrong... cause the reason I ask is that I don't believe the VT has a Panhard rod.

I think he has a VN with a VT rear (bumper) bar

Dazz

[PUSHIN]

yes, as bj42turbo said, it is a vn with a vt clubby rear bumper, which is somewhere between 8 and 12 cm's off the ground (just behind the rear wheels) which is where the ramp difficulty comes in.. sorry for the confusion.

If anyone would still like that information, Vn calais, Series 1. and im pretty sure no vn's had irs so i dont needa answer that..

Actually, while we're here.. does it make sense that my vn was made in 1990, but is series one engine? again, may be a stupid question.. (as vns were originally released in 89 yes?) but when did they release the series two vn? again, i apologise if this doesnt make sense, im not really onto it tonight.

Sorry, i know thats completely unrelated, just thought about it then and yeah.. lol cheers.

[dirt drifter]

I actually read on a thread somewhere about jacking it up, and chucking some wheels under the rear wheels of the car as a meathod of support.. but when i asked about this at the place i bought the rod from, he told me it wasnt a good idea. i didnt question him, but does anyone know why this would be a bad idea? O.o

i've jacked up cars on old wheels heaps of times, never had a problem. although i always have some axle stands or a jack under there too just in case

[wortus]

yes, as bj42turbo said, it is a vn with a vt clubby rear bumper, which is somewhere between 8 and 12 cm's off the ground (just behind the rear wheels) which is where the ramp difficulty comes in.. sorry for the confusion.

If anyone would still like that information, Vn calais, Series 1. and im pretty sure no vn's had irs so i dont needa answer that..

Actually, while we're here.. does it make sense that my vn was made in 1990, but is series one engine? again, may be a stupid question.. (as vns were originally released in 89 yes?) but when did they release the series two vn? again, i apologise if this doesnt make sense, im not really onto it tonight.

Sorry, i know thats completely unrelated, just thought about it then and yeah.. lol cheers.

Technically there's no such thing as a series 1 or 2 VN. The V6 engine changed at least 3 times, there were I think at least 2 distinct versions with the thermostat at the back (the revisdions were mostly a lot of diferent internals such as valve gear etc, still had a surge tank but added an overflow bottle) then the motor with the thermostat at the front looks like a VP engine came out. I had a late October 1990 build Vacationer sedan and it had the thermostat at the back of the engine, surge tank with no aditional overflow bottle on the passengers side but had unused holes in the inner guard where it was meant to go. It had the later revisions like the wiper arms etc as well. I suppose if Holden had the older engines there they used them up?

[PUSHIN]

Ah alrighty Thanks allot Wortus. Panhard rod on and adjusted. now just gotta get the car running, let the springs set in, and re-adjust. Thanks allot guys

(my main reason for asking about the engines, is i was just curious as my car has nearly 296,xxx on the clock, has been flogged by whoever owned it before me, and still goes off its chops, WHEN it runs.... lol but yeah i was just wondering if maybe my engine had been swapped, and he put a s1 in there instead or something, but i guess not.)

[immortality]

to adjust the pan hard rod (assuming you have a adjustable one) it does need to be sitting at it's normal ride height. so if it is sitting on axle stands under the diff or on ramps then that will be fine..

i always set the diff a touch towards the passenger side as the diff will move over to the drivers side when the car is loaded. if possible have someone sit in the car when setting the pan hard rod and then set the wheel-arch gaps even.

[PUSHIN]

cheers buddy yeah i was told to offset it by about 2mm and i did so. Thanks

Oh also.. this isnt really the place for it, but i dont wanna start a new thread just to ask this.. im having a few problems with my rdaiator, the car tends to keep over heating.. i changed the temp sensor and temp sender or whatever it is, and the thermostat.. i also tried to give it a rough flush using the hose, and as i thought it didnt do shit. so when i called a radiator joint, asking him if he thought i might need a new radiator, he said oh dunno, if you wanna bring iti in for $70 i can try clear all the shit out of it (he said using a wire or something along those lines?) i figured bugger that, im not spendnig $70 when theres chance it wont help.. does anyone know if theres a way i could do this myself? (i do think its worth trying, but im not willing to pay $70 if there is a chance it'll be wasted money, as im a bit tight for cash at the moment.) Cheers

[lemusa]

when you flushed the radiator did the water come thru clear and fast? Also did you give the block a good squirt out. If you have crap in the radiator its probaly in the block too. also might sound odd but whats the heater like? Does it warm up much?

[PUSHIN]

i couldn't tell ya mate, its been probably a year since the heater was used. and it doesnt run atm so i couldnt tell ya what its like.. sorry lol.. hmm, i think that a little bit of dirty water come out first, but then after that it just gushed out without any apparent issues.. and no, i didnt do the block. when i change the short hose over the back of the engine (leading to the thermostat..) i'll do it then. cheers. but has anyone heard of the "Using wire to get the shit out of the radiator"?

[lemusa]

yep pipe cleaner, you can get them a fair way into the block and definitely push them thru the heater coil. Just helps to break off any crap stuck to the sides

[PUSHIN]

are you talking about some type of specific "Pipe cleaner" or the little fluffy things with wire through the middle? O.o

Thanks allot mate!!

[lemusa]

just the flufy thing with wire thru it haha for the heater you might want a longish one. And im not entirely sure but I think you gotta be a bit more gently cleaning out heater core

[PUSHIN]

aahhh, never mind, i've done a bit of research and found what he was talking about, was removing the radiator tanks, and getting inside the cores or some shit like that.. to be completely honest, i think he was just looking to do me out of a bit of money. I'm thinking my best bet would be to replace the radiator. Thanks anyway though, i appreciate the help. cheers guys