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    Exclamation can you intercool a none turbo/supercharged car .... and would it help performance

    hay i am just woundering if it would be worth putting a intercooler on my vn .and if you have to have a turbo or anouther form of air induction first..... and seems im on mi p plates i dont hav a turb or charger ........... and just to add please dont be a hater ... you have to learn this stuff some how thanx

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    you could install a intercooler without forced induction but you'll actually lose performance if you do, and it would look stupid
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    I hope your trolling... As ryno said intercoolers don't work with out forced induction.
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    Nah, might be srs.

    If so, like the others have said, it won't work, forced induction actually forces/pushes the air into the intake, (because the 'air' is at a higher/positive pressure, compared to the intake manifold at a lower/negitive pressure) through all the intercooler/piping etc.
    N/A (naturally apsirated) would have to 'suck' the air through all that. Creating a huge restriction. Try breathing through a straw, lol.

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    Intercoolers in the common sence wont work. Not a silly question if you don't understand it. Turbo's and superchargers compress the air, squashing the oxygen molocules together causes friction and makes the intake charge heat up. The more you compress it, the more it heats up.

    But getting the intake temperatures down is always a good idea if you're chasing power (or even more economy). You could do something simple such as a CAI that draws air from source outside the engine bay, this will do very little. But if you go for a drive on a particularly cold night it may.
    You could also heat shield the exhaust and the intake. That would keep the engine bay temperatures down and shield the intake charge from the under bonnet temperatures.

    I've also read about aviation enthusiasts using a small injector in the intake of aeroplanes to cool the air temperature. I guess that coupled with high altitude and high air speed could get temperatures down to almost freezing.
    Considering average intake temperatures on a road car are about ambient, (nearly 40degrees in some places) if you could drop it by even half you would notice a good improvement.

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    another excellent soop answer.

    Nothing is stopping you from putting an intercooler behind your front bar, to make it "look" turbo charged if that is what you are going for, but don't plumb it up as it won't work. If you've got your P plates on too, and an intercooler hanging out the front your going to get unwanted attention also.

    Water / methanol injection is an option you may want to look into. methanol can't be run on the street but even water injection can make the car run that slight bit better by lowering intake temps. google it mate.
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    cheers every one for your helpfull info .... and nah im not the wanker with fake bits hanging from his car ..hahahha ... nah just wondering if it would be worth it ... but nah wast of cash .......

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    if u want a little bit extra power look at your throttle body where it bolts to the intake manifold, u will see a black piece between the two, unbolt ur throttle body and take it out its a air restrictor take it out and bolt every thing back together

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    Quote Originally Posted by soop View Post
    Intercoolers in the common sence wont work. Not a silly question if you don't understand it. Turbo's and superchargers compress the air, squashing the oxygen molocules together causes friction and makes the intake charge heat up. The more you compress it, the more it heats up.
    That's not entirely true. Positive displacement supercharger dont compress air they push it. So any you boost you see is actually caused by the engine's Volumetric Efficiency as you engine cant swallow the air that being forced into it in lamans terms restriction. So if you were to make your engine breathe better you'd see a drop in "boost" but an increase in power.

    Centrifugal supercharger actually compress air. Screw type superchargers actually compress and push air at the same giving you the best of both worlds
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