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    Hey guys I'm running 1.9ratio rockers on my supercharged vp v6 engine and am wondering if I can get my standard cam re ground??? I'm only after something cheap pretty much in it for the lumpy idle. Cheers

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    LOL, your in it for the lumpy idle, is that the only reason, I mean do what you want but seriously....

    It won't be cheap as you will then have to get the car dyno tuned with can cost upwards or $600, and depending on the cam you may need new valve springs, collets, retainers, etc...
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    How's that funny? Who doesn't love the sound of a cammy engine, anything beats the horrid sound of the standard v6, the only reason I am interested in getting a cam is because the car is going for a tune soon for the supercharger so I would like to kill two birds with one stone.

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    he has a point, half the blokes on youtube who post up videos of there cammed commodores film them idling, it's the best "show off" part of a cam.
    along with the increase it has on performance of course.....
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    Like I said, do what you want. Just remember that the 'lumpier' the cam the more of a dog it will run on the street, as it will move the power range higher. The supercharger should help alleviate this a bit. Just remember to get a supercharger specific cam, these usually have a higher LSA. I believe (but I could be wrong) that this is due to not wanting much lobe overlap, because on a N/A engine you want the escaping exhaust gases to 'pull in' the new air, whereas on a charger engine the air is being forced in under pressure and would escape out the exhaust valve. They also tend to have more duration and lift on the exhaust lobes compared to the intake.
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    Best off getting a cam designed for supercharger applications, will never sound or be as lumpy as camshafts designed for high performance N/A engines. Difference being in overlap, lift etc. Depends on if you want it to go good or just sound good?

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    I found this for you, YouTube - L67 with XHP Cam , that cam is about as lumpy as they come. But it is from the states but our dollar is pretty bloody good at the moment. I'll see if I can find it for you.
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    I know that his will likely cost more than a re-ground cam, but myself, I prefer something new that is designed to do something, and not something that is changed to do something else. But up to you.

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    thats what I'm after, really not in it to spend heaps or want massive power, really just wanted to no if I can get a lumpy idle out of a reground cam, I also am unsure if I can go too big of a cam with 1.9 roller rockers, don't want my valves to hit my pistons. Thanks for your help if that cam was suitable for my car I would be wrapped

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    Oh yeah I forgot about the rockers, you really need to talk to a cam specialist about this. You will definitely want a custom cam, so it will have less lift so that the rockers will pick it up.

    These guys are in Vic, don't know how far from you but if you can maybe swing on over, Wade Cams Australia precision camshafts for automotive, marine, aviation, industry
    And I don't know if these guy do regrinds but they are pretty well known, Tighe Cams, brisbane, camshafts, automotive, Motorcycle, diesel, semi finished

    You have to talk to a cam specialist and see what advice they can give, tell them every mod to you car, and what you want, and they will tell you if they can do it and what else may or may not need doing.
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    No problems.
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    You can only use the 1.9's on std camshafts.1.7 is the most you would go with a camshaft profile change.

    I dont see a "cheap" method with reliability and performance at all unless you can spin the spanners.A proper cam upgrade is in the vacinity of $1500 when starting without any of the correct items.

    Whilst their youd be crazy not to attend other areas aswell adding to the total.Its not that simple but wish you luck in the hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karlos View Post
    You can only use the 1.9's on std camshafts.1.7 is the most you would go with a camshaft profile change.
    Only on shelf cams, the OP will have to look at custom cams, where they can accommodate the high ratio rockers.
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