VN 91 Brake Lights Top or Bottom

[Gerrys888]

Just bought A VN 91 and wondering is Brake light Top or Bottom and It has rear window one aswell....As Top and rear window work only...Thanks

[Clint_G]

Thays the way my vn was also. I think the early vns had all the red lights as break lights tho

[matty94]

there should be 5 brake lights top of the lights bottom of the lights and the window light

[Pub247]

before the adr came in for a high mount rear tailight vn's had all four light top and bottom i beleive after the adr they changed to the way vp's are which is top 2 and high mount brake light

[matty94]

my vn s1 had all 5 and my vq s1 has all 5 and my vp s2 had all 5

[alpha_au]

Yep, as people have said tail lights are lower 2 and top 2 are brake/tail lights. Of course that doesn't include the parcel shelf brake light

[Circlotron]

I reckon it would be better if only two were tail lights and all 4 for brake. Greater difference.
I also wish they would make LED replacement brake globes legal seeing they come on instantly, not 1/10 second later.
Why aren't they legal? Is it because the red of the LED doesn't match the red of the plastic lens?

[Cheap6]

Pub247 and alpha_au are correct. All the globes stayed double filament though.

I think that the LED's aren't legal because they don't meet (or simply haven't been tested to meet) requirements for visibility at an angle to the lens.

[Gerrys888]

Thanks everyone..now i know...Top two brake bottom None.....Cheersss

[agrsv8]

Actually i think you misread, I'll make this as plain as i can

For Brake illumination:
VN= all 4
VP= top 2

With parkers and headlights selected ON:
VN + VP use all 4 (on the low voltage part of the globe)

I hope this clears things up

[Munz]

Actually i think you misread, I'll make this as plain as i can

For Brake illumination:
VN= all 4
VP= top 2

With parkers and headlights selected ON:
VN + VP use all 4 (on the low voltage part of the globe)

I hope this clears things up

Yea I was gonna say my old VN lit up 4 for the taillights and 4 lights for rear brake + parcel shelf

[Gerrys888]

Its the VN Executive 91 and just found the manual book which says top 2 brake/tail...with high mount brake light.....bottom 2 just tail...and thats the way they work...So lets hope there right """" And yeah bottom 2 globes are double filament aswell....dont understand that...Anyway Thanks too all

[wortus]

Actually i think you misread, I'll make this as plain as i can

For Brake illumination:
VN= all 4
VP= top 2

With parkers and headlights selected ON:
VN + VP use all 4 (on the low voltage part of the globe)

I hope this clears things up

The globes have 2 filaments which are both 12 Volt they would be a different wattage (the brake light being the highest) so would draw different amounts of current and have a different brightness.

[Circlotron]

And yeah bottom 2 globes are double filament aswell....dont understand that...

Probably so they can't get mixed up on the production line seeing only one kind.
Or less kinds of globe to stock?

[agrsv8]

VN = all 4 brake, have a look at the difference in the VN to VP looms, if you have a VN and it only has 2, chances are you have a VP loom, if your manual says only 2, your manual is wrong

[Brett_jjj]

The VN handbook shows that theres supposed to be two stop/tail lamps each side-1 top and 1 bottom, as well as the rear window brake light..These taillights use duel filament bulbs,which are 21w for the stop lamp and 5w for the taillight.These bulbs have different spaced holding pegs so a normal single filament bulb will not fit.(Ive seen the single ones just jammed in there before though,I guess some people just have no idea.)

[Gerrys888]

Ok just had a look at the wiring The Top has 3 wires and the Bottom has only 2.....any ideas

[agrsv8]

you have a VP loom...

[88GreenVN]

From 21/12/1990 Tag Number L484423 SINGLE LEVEL STOP LAMPS USED FITTED WITH HIGH LEVEL STOP LAMP

[Gerrys888]

All cleared up now i think....Thanks

[wrx884]

either way just wire them up so u got all 4 brake lights working. ive done this in the VP looks much better and 4 piece of mind, more brake lights the better i say

[Circlotron]

So.... if you had your VP wired a la VN with 4 stop lights and just say only 3 were working and you got pulled up, even though you were required to have only 1 per side I wonder how you would go :-)

[wrx884]

So.... if you had your VP wired a la VN with 4 stop lights and just say only 3 were working and you got pulled up, even though you were required to have only 1 per side I wonder how you would go :-)

woudnt think ud have any dramas wen u should have the rear mount brake light also or a spoiler brake light so thats 5 in total but i cant say if heard or seen ppl pulled over 4 brake lights unless either the rear mount and another whole side wasnt working. then again im in perth

[VNVacationer]

Just another of the many running model changes