High Beam HIDs? Has anyone done it

[VKCOMMO]

Hey

Im just wondering, Has anyone installed a HID kit to their high beam? By the looks of it it cant be done, but I just want to make sure before I rule it out..

cheers

VKC

[wraith]

The bulbs are H4 which are dual filament. At the moment there are no dual halogen/HID globe.

[VKCOMMO]

I mean for the separate H3 high beam one..

Sorry if it was misread..

[DAKSTER]

You are no newbie, you know only too well how many hundreds of posts on HID there are on here. You trying to keep the argument alive? lol

[VKCOMMO]

You are no newbie, you know only too well how many hundreds of posts on HID there are on here. You trying to keep the argument alive? lol

IM not trying to start any HID argument here, Im being deadly serious.. Im over having 6000k HID low beams, with yellow halogen high beams... Im not asking to be turned off HIDs as I like mine and believe they're fine as long as they're angled correctly.. I haven't been flashed once with my setup, thats because they were properly angled and aligned after I bought the car.


So yeah, to clear it up, I dont want to have people whinging about HIDs, I just want to hear if anyone has installed HIDs in a second gen high beam, or if anyone thinks it can be done...

[hi_ryder]

@ at your hid's!

[VKCOMMO]

Don't hate the properly aligned HIDs... pet the sweaty

[SweetWagon]

The service cover/hole for high beam globes would be too small to drill and run the wiring through, its possible but much more difficult to do

[hi_ryder]

Don't hate the properly aligned HIDs... pet the sweaty

lol just playing mate and im petting the sweaty right now

[VKCOMMO]

The service cover/hole for high beam globes would be too small to drill and run the wiring through, its possible but much more difficult to do

Hmm, I might be able to run the cables out the back with some silicone to make it waterproof again?..

[fuzzy2308]

if you find away to do it post some picks and how.

[SweetWagon]

Hmm, I might be able to run the cables out the back with some silicone to make it waterproof again?..

I'd say run the cables out the back access cap, aslong as the service/access cover for the high beam globe fit's over the 'guts' the the HID bulb, then i cant foresee any issues other than trying to route the cable through the headlight - which could be difficult with taking it apart.

[VKCOMMO]

if you find away to do it post some picks and how.

Will do.. Hakky said he did it, but he didnt take any pics ):

I'd say run the cables out the back access cap, aslong as the service/access cover for the high beam globe fit's over the 'guts' the the HID bulb, then i cant foresee any issues other than trying to route the cable through the headlight - which could be difficult with taking it apart.

Hmm.. I might have a go on a spare headlight..

[SweetWagon]

Pics of how there may be clearance issues fitting the access cover over the HID bulb.

[mischa]

IM not trying to start any HID argument here, Im being deadly serious.. Im over having 6000k HID low beams, with yellow halogen high beams... Im not asking to be turned off HIDs as I like mine and believe they're fine as long as they're angled correctly.. I haven't been flashed once with my setup, thats because they were properly angled and aligned after I bought the car.


So yeah, to clear it up, I dont want to have people whinging about HIDs, I just want to hear if anyone has installed HIDs in a second gen high beam, or if anyone thinks it can be done...

People cant flash you when there infront of you! To be honest the other night we went to the movies I had to tilt my rear veiw mirror down cause your lights where so glary/bright. If I was a cop I would book you.

As for high beams im supprised no one has said it. HID's take time to warm up, your going to look like a idiot flashing someone with HID's if there duller then your low beams....

[VKCOMMO]

People cant flash you when there infront of you! To be honest the other night we went to the movies I had to tilt my rear veiw mirror down cause your lights where so glary/bright. If I was a cop I would book you.

As for high beams im supprised no one has said it. HID's take time to warm up, your going to look like a idiot flashing someone with HID's if there duller then your low beams....

Well why didnt you say something? Ive driven behind people before and then asked them if they were too high and they said they were fine..

"your going to look like a idiot flashing someone with HID's if there duller then your low beams." Thats what the air horn is for

[SweetWagon]

nah that's what HID reverse light's hooked up to a switch is for

[DAKSTER]

My high beam (VS) has HID. They just clipped in like the old ones, no dramas. It means you need to run the wires through the access plates, but I just left the access plates off, havent got around to drilling the plates and sealing them, but its no biggie. You just need a large enough hole to get the plugs through it, maybe 10mm? then some silicone to seal the gaps.

[showbags]

Autotecnica make a twin element HID (H4). I've got them in my vt. Yes they do take time to warm up but I've also got H1 HID's in my high beam and H3 HID in my foggies. The warm up time really isn't an issue cause I'm tripling the light output when I flick on high beam.

[DAKSTER]

Warmup time for low beam is like 2 or 3 seconds, not an issue at all. The same for high beam, maybe a fraction longer, so yeah if you are just flashing high beam at someone they wont be real bright. If you are on the highway and have only dipped your lights for approaching traffic, go back to high beam and they are already still pretty warm, and need no time for warm up.

Thinking back on my previous post though, not sure now if my dedicated high beams were originally H1 or H3. They were standard VS lights though, and the replacement HIDs I fitted were easy to fit.

All HIDs designed to replace H4 are HID both filaments, you cant have both in one globe...

[VKCOMMO]

Cheers guys.. I might look into modifying a spare bulb cover and see where I go from there

[Verynice]

Don't forget when you flash someone, you still have the hi-beam from the H4 globe operating. Just means you wont have main hi beam flash function

[DAKSTER]

Sorry I have been having a grey moment with the H4 question. HIDs that replace H4s actually only have one filament. What I meant was not that they are dual filaments, but that you cant have both halogen and HID in the one globe.

Instead of using two filaments, there is a servo that pushes the single filament in and out, changing its focus to give you low or high beam. Since neither the low or high beam positions are in the correct place as compared to halogen globes, thats what causes the HID debate.. they arent focused correctly. Hence adjusting the lights to compensate.

What this means though is that if the low beam is already on and warmed up, you flash your lights and the result is instant, because its the same already hot filament, just repositioned. The dedicated high beam wont look like much though in that instance because they arent already hot.

Flashing your lights in the day wont be worth doing though, unless you are like me and never turn your lights off anyway, because the lights wont warm up in time to be useful.

All of this applies to vkcommo of course as he already has HIDs instead of H4, so the high/low will not really flash very well either unless the low beam was already on.

I'm now moving in the other direction, and replacing HIDs in the main lights for philips extreme vision H4, plus keeping my HIDs in the dedicated high beam. Mainly so I can adjust my lights correctly again.

[VKCOMMO]

Sorry I have been having a grey moment with the H4 question. HIDs that replace H4s actually only have one filament. What I meant was not that they are dual filaments, but that you cant have both halogen and HID in the one globe.

Instead of using two filaments, there is a servo that pushes the single filament in and out, changing its focus to give you low or high beam. Since neither the low or high beam positions are in the correct place as compared to halogen globes, thats what causes the HID debate.. they arent focused correctly. Hence adjusting the lights to compensate.

What this means though is that if the low beam is already on and warmed up, you flash your lights and the result is instant, because its the same already hot filament, just repositioned. The dedicated high beam wont look like much though in that instance because they arent already hot.

Flashing your lights in the day wont be worth doing though, unless you are like me and never turn your lights off anyway, because the lights wont warm up in time to be useful.

All of this applies to vkcommo of course as he already has HIDs instead of H4, so the high/low will not really flash very well either unless the low beam was already on.

I'm now moving in the other direction, and replacing HIDs in the main lights for philips extreme vision H4, plus keeping my HIDs in the dedicated high beam. Mainly so I can adjust my lights correctly again.

If I need to flash people (vary rarely anyway) I can just flash my fogs... hmm