Vx electric seats into a Vg ute
So I picked up these seats to replace the bench seat in my ute. Mounting them will be fairly straight forward I'll just fabricate an L piece for the back front should bolt in from what I've read.
What I'd like to know is how I can get some functionality out of the electric seats tbh being a ute I will probably set it and never touch it again but I think I will need to get the electrics working just to move it forward and back to put the bolts in. I'm gonna throw up some photos any thoughts would be great.
Photos are of the underside of the drivers seat wiring
calais93
just a thought, but could try tracing the wires, work out which one connects to where and then just wire in couple of toggle switches. just an idea for ya to rattle around
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Before you get ahead of yourself maybe do more research. I don't think this will be legal and do you really want to risk it?
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wraith, i dont understand how it would be illegal as it's just wiring electric motors, could you explain what would make it illegal??
Lots of things aren't legal, like the broken track on my drivers seat for example. Or pod filters. I'm not too worried about the legality of it. As long as its safe and comfy and looks cool. I could try putting those seats on stock vg tracks i think that way is doable and legal AFAIK. Im not hung up on the electrics, its a ute its not like u roll your seat forward for anything other than searching for your lighter that fell between. Being a bench seat stock at the moment and having a broken rail on the drivers seat will mean getting a set of tracks anyway. Judging from the setup underneath if i put it on stock tracks i'll lose all the electrics.Originally Posted by wraith
Are monaro front seats any different from sedan? Can anyone confirm or deny being able to rip out a bench seat put vn tracks on those seats and bung them in?
Its the mounting that makes it illegal. They're not bolt in. From my understanding if you change the tracks technically, legally it needs to be engineered. If you start cutting or werlding where the seats are held in it becomes a question of safety. I have read in the retro fit how to that you can put the seats on stock tracks and it is legal. Just not sure if this applies to me with my vg bench seat and monaro front seats i want to put in.
ahhh ok i thought it was the wiring of the seats that wraith was talking about that would make it illegal, definatly not legal with customised seat rails unless as you have said you get them engineer certified.
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Sorry yes talking about the track. I would say Holden being Holden it would have the mounting holes for a regular seat anyway. The biggest problem is finding a 12 volt source. Obviously these never came with electrics. I don't know how much current the motor would draw and I wouldn't be keen on putting it direct to battery. Is there maybe a way you can run a power lead from say an accessories wire into it. You might not have the memory etc but you will at least be able to move it. Just my thoughts some one I am sure will have a better idea.
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Finding a 12 volt source will be easy i read someone ran it off cigarette lighter. Should be fine can run a relay anyway.
In one of those pics im holding a red connector with a red and a black wire coming out of it. I'm gonna say...best case scenario i add power to the red wire earth to the black wire and it works? I wont hold my breath for it though...But it'd be nice...I read something about being able to just use red and black wires but i flipped the seats and saw a whole lot more wiring than red and black lol.
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the vt holes wont line up to the holes in the floor for the vg ute , and if you drill holes thru the floor its illegal
But if you put vg/vs rails on it and mod the seat to fit the rails its legal , thats how I got my vx ss seats in my vs ute . You will loose the electric seat bit but meh who cares its pretty shit anyways
Cars cost too much.
Or could you make a new bracket that bolts in the old holes and then have the seat bolt to that?
Thats how im putting the VT seats into my VS.
What exactly do you have to mod on the seat to make it fit the vn brackets? And once you lose your electrics how do u tilt the seat? Obviously backwards and forward is on the rail...
Not legally.
Anyways. Talking got me thinking so I went and pulled the base off one of the seats took some photos. MAinly wondering how you tilt once the electrics are gone. And the plastic covers and seat controls once the electrics are gone can u put covers designed for non electric vx seats on there if they exist anyway... Pics
Base off still lots of wires
Plastic cover off... Could u put a windy wheel here to make it manual adjust? ( easily? )
Lots of electrics still tucked away sort of between the seat and the plastic shroud
The base itself off and yes my workbench is a spa lid.
Cars cost too much.
How can it be illegal? Its secured extremely well and the bracket is strong.
I dunno mate it's all heresay from me anyway. But it sounds realistic that you need an engineers report to alter the way the seat is attached to the body. If there wasn't a law someone would try to solder their seats on or use race tape or rope to hold them in or something
Cars cost too much.
Aww well. Just chuck them in and organise a engineer to look at it then.
Screw that. $$ for nothing
Hmm.. Pulled even more bits off the seat to Suss out what wiring is involved in the backrest recline part of the electrics. If I can work out a way to either manualise the recline or make the recline electrics work by themselves. And work out how to fit the seats to the stock rails I'll be set. will try to get down to a wreckers this week and get a set of rails for a start. The recliner is another thing entirely there's a metric tone of wiring and some control
Boxes or and a circuit board behind the plastic cover too.
WTT electric seat base and motors for labour and expertise lol
I guess I'll have to learn from experience might take some pics + do a write up. Providing I'm successful ofc
I did a write up on that other forum.
In any other model, I'd say go for it. Using these seats in a ute, not enough room, you'll be kissing the steering wheel. Keeping electrics is almost a pointless exercise because you'll have so little room that there will be just one setting for the seat, with it pressed back into every available space. All that effort just to make the motor work once.
This isn't encountered on other models. Its just the thickness of the seat back and the lack of cabin space in the VG-VS utes
The bases on VT-VZ seats vary a little but most can be safely adapted to fit the VN-VS rails.
Using the VT-VZ rails is crazy from an engineering perspective.
The base foams and VT-VZ seat backs can also be fitted to the VG-VS seat rails.
VT seats are uncomfortable.
VZ are the best.
I'd start looking for VS III Stato seats and adapt them to fit the lower spec rails and ditch the electrics. They mount different in the Stato's
I'll probably try to adapt these seats to vn seat rails, im assuming all the bolt holes will be there to convert it from a bench to buckets. I dont adjust the seat anyway just hoping i can have backrest adjustment and then backwards and forwards on the rail. If i had a dollar for every time i'd dropped a lighter or a phone behind the seat while im driving along...
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