Wow, $4000.00

[Finchy]

Wow, i just got a quote from a specialised mechanic for a rebuilt t5 gearbox and all the boltons, this is a strengthened box and comes with every thing that is needed for the conversion. With postage a litle over $4000.00, this gearbox will be going into a vn i am doing up for the track.
I have done some of the sums, and if i buy a second hand box and second hand pieces off the net, then it will cost about $2000.00 TO $2500.00 and may be any other bits and pieces i have not thought of, any thoughts on this guys, this guy comes highly recomended.
Cheer's, Finchy.

[mr calais 5.0]

Do you have a budget for the build? 4000 is a lot of change

[GRPABT1]

Can you post the list of "specialized bits"? I'd like to see just exactly what they've done to this box to make it worth choosing over a T56 or TKO box.

[Reaper]

Sounds very expensive to me. I'd look at a T56 - **way** stronger box + you would have heaps of money left over.

Reaper

[m1lky]

http://www.holmart.com.au/online/category5_1.htm

Quite a few brand new boxes for under 4g. Not sure which ones bolt straight up though

[pazzogen3]

Like others have said t56, status engineering do reco t56 for $2200 outright. There in Kilsyth victoria. Also do conversion's for any car.

[mischa]

I just got a full T56 conversion for $4000 to suit a VN (so pedal box, loom, mounts etc), this sounds like a rip for a T5.

[FusionX]

comes with every thing that is needed for the conversion.

To determine whether $4000 is worth it or not, what exactly is everything needed? pedal box, clutch (what sort of clutch as well), wiring, tailshaft and what sort of "strengthening" was done to the box.

It is quite easy to spend well over $4000 on upgrading a T5 (my last T5 gearset came in just under $5000, total cost was around $7500).

For those that say T56, it's going in a track car. A t56 weighs too much and will break in stock form if trying to drive it fast. TKO is a much better option over the T5 and T56.

[GRPABT1]

TKO is better yes but T56 is cheaper and LOL at them breaking, mine cops a hiding behind 400kw with sticky tyres and everything that can break but the gearbox has and has been strengthened. I did smash a T5 to pieces with about 260kw though lol. Won't argue about the weight though, they are heavy.

Can I ask why on earth you wasted $7500 on a T5 instead of getting a TKO?

[FusionX]

Because the majority of the racing we do is with Saloon cars which have to run T5's. Occasionally we get a stockpile of spare parts to build something up for fun. At the moment it's a VS drift ute with a LS1 (if the fabricator ever finishes the cage... 12 months and counting). Straight cut gears for saloon cars cost $4200 from memory. When building one up for a VK race car, we went a bit overboard and went with dogring engagment and all the other fruit (including some custom work).

T56's are a reasonably strong box. It's not the power that will break them, but changing gears quickly. While taking a bit more time to change gears would increase the life of a stock T56, when racing, slow gear changes are not something that is going to happen.

If it was a street car he was talking about, I would say go the T56, but he's talking about building a track car where weight is crucial.

[mr calais 5.0]

What about a top loader box?

[Finchy]

Thanks for all your imput guys, i realy appreciat it, the box comes from a Mal Wood over in Warrick, he comes highly recomended, he told me all the work that he done to the inside of the box, and the other stuff is a refurbished pedal box, tailshaft with sliding yolk, cable, 10 half inch clutch and presure plate, throw out berring billet steel fly wheel, bell housing, cross member and mounts, i cant think of anything else off the top of my head, but i have asked for a list of every thing i would be getting for $3890.00, just so i can get my head around the figure. This figure is just under half fo what i have allowed for this project, looks like i will have to negotiate with the minister of finance (the wife) before going any further. My son recons i am mad, as a mate of his has got a ex commodore cup car that i would probable get for what i am going to spend, LOL.
Cheer's, Finchy.

[GRPABT1]

Because the majority of the racing we do is with Saloon cars which have to run T5's. Occasionally we get a stockpile of spare parts to build something up for fun. At the moment it's a VS drift ute with a LS1 (if the fabricator ever finishes the cage... 12 months and counting). Straight cut gears for saloon cars cost $4200 from memory. When building one up for a VK race car, we went a bit overboard and went with dogring engagment and all the other fruit (including some custom work).

T56's are a reasonably strong box. It's not the power that will break them, but changing gears quickly. While taking a bit more time to change gears would increase the life of a stock T56, when racing, slow gear changes are not something that is going to happen.

If it was a street car he was talking about, I would say go the T56, but he's talking about building a track car where weight is crucial.

I change with mine pretty snappy but always heal/toe down shift, I have raced it plenty at the drags and am about to start entering sprint circuit racing. I hope it lasts lol. If not it'll be dog box time.

[Pub247]

#### spending that much on vn manual you could go buy 8 $500 vn manuals for that then just throw a new one in when you break it.

4g you could get a powerglide rated at 1000hp 7.5g you could get one rated at 2000hp.

For 4g id go buy rb26 and 5 spd to suit and itd still be stronger and quicker than a t5

[Finchy]

Yeh it is abit exorbitant for a track car, there is one on ebay with quite a few of the pieces for $800, so i will try to bid on that.
Cheer's, Finchy.

[old mate]

4g you could get a powerglide rated at 1000hp 7.5g you could get one rated at 2000hp.

yeah coz everyone knows that powerglides are awesome gearboxes for circuit work and hillclimbs...

DERP

[Pub247]

yeah coz everyone knows that powerglides are awesome gearboxes for circuit work and hillclimbs...

DERP

Lol who said anything about hill climbs and circuit work? in fact OP never stated in intentions what the gearbox was to be used for.

I'm just comparing what gearboxes you could get for around the same cash.

Make sense smart arse?


My point is its a lot of money to spend on a T5 gearbox and you wont have a great gearbox for that money.

[old mate]

if you direct your eyes down the VN -VP section slightly you will find this thread.

vn track car

Thanks for all this info guys, i am not doing any real racing, i mean not door to door stuff, just the sprints at Lakeside, and maybe some hill climb events, more fun then competitive, so i will probably just stick with a refurbished T5 with the origanal LSD 3.08, and see how i go. So if you know of anybody that has a T5 for sale please let me know. As for the motor i will be giving it a bit of a freshen up, mabe bigger cam, rebore with better pistons and rings, some head work, nothing major. i tend to spend more money on getting the car to handle more then the power plant, so If you have any other idea's i what else i can do then i will be happy for your time and input.
Cheer's, Finchy

Kind Regards,

Capt. Smart Arse

[Pub247]

if you direct your eyes down the VN -VP section slightly you will find this thread.

vn track car



Kind Regards,

Capt. Smart Arse

Nice! no mention of it in this thread.... i didnt go into the full back history search and google his username. I simply read what was in here

[GRPABT1]

Settle down girls

[some_guy]

@ Pubber. A snippet from the OP's origional post. Legit

this gearbox will be going into a vn i am doing up for the track.

Cheer's, Finchy.

Oldmate. stop being such a smartarse and provide a quote.

You might find pub will listen to you that way.

[Pub247]

Well it seems i did miss that part someguy thanks.

It gives me the shits when people just post smart arse shit in a thread that does not contribute to op questions (trolling??)

[some_guy]

Well it seems i did miss that part someguy thanks.

It gives me the shits when people just post smart arse shit in a thread that does not contribute to op questions (trolling??)

Any time pub. Yeah

He was trolling/baiting for sure.

But when a kid comes up and trolls in your hood, whatcha gonna do? ACTA FOOL!

[Finchy]

Ok guys i have two threads going about the basicly same subject, it was to get the attention of guys who are in the know, and it has, so thank you very much, i have a lot of trouble making decisions on these matters as i do not have much experience in this field. I am still no closer to making a decision at the moment, and am wondering if i should go back to my origanal idea of using the VN for the purpose i bought it for, a donnor car for my VH. But i still need a t5 gearbox for that purpose as well. oh yeh and i have stated in this thread, its in the origanal post at the top, "it will be going in a VN i am doing up for thr track", just in case you missed it, LOL.
Cheers, Finchy.

[Finchy]

Hey guys are the vn, vs bellhousing the same, in other words does the vs gearbox and bellhousing from a v8, fit into a vn v8.
Cheer's, Finchy.