K&N Filter + VS S/C CAI

[TriK]

hey guys,

Im thinking of buying a K&N pod filter and the VS S/C CAI and i was just curious what it is exactly i will be needing to do, does the K&N filter fit in the stock filter box? or will i need to buy something for it to go in? because i heard that it will just take in more hot air if its out by itself in the engine bay. Also with the VS S/C CAI with the heat gun thing....ill go out and buy one from bunnings or something but never used one before so does it take long to heat the top of it up? Main reason i ask such questions is cuz i really just dont wanna stuff anything up. I Presume the fitting of these are pretty much straight forward.

Appreciate your help guys even though you have probably answered all this before.

[Emackulation]

Yes, Its wont take long to heat the top of the CAI, I could heat it up a fair bit with a hair dryer. I didnt even need to heat it up tho, myne worked fine w/o any mods. For the pod, yes it will take in hot air from the engine but they take a shitload of air into the engine. My setup ATM is I have the bottom half of the airbox in the engine bay with the CAI connected to it. Then I have the pod connected and sitting (resting) on the bottom half of the box, so it gets a bit of flow from the CAI still. The airflow rate for a K&N pod filter is 441CMF(cant remember what its measured in) and the K&N pannel filter is 221CMF. But its up to you, some people argue that pannels are beter, others that pods are beter. Pods are illegal in most states (unboxed ones) and pannels are legal. Up to you champ.

[Blown V6 Hatch]

Go panel filter and cai, just my 2 cents!

[habro]

yeah i installed both mine today, took about 10 minutes. i also didnt have to mod anything - just cut my airbox to fit the snorkel, held the cai in place and drilled the screws in [just make sure you dont hit the radiator, though there's a fair amount of gap] with a couple of washers on top. first time i closed the bonnet it took a tiny bit more effort, but now it just opens up fine, nothing catches and didnt have to change the bonnet height. oh and make sure you take off the plastic thats on the bottom of the bonnet thats held in with little lugs - or you'll get no air coming in

[sircruisealotVS]

i can see where this thread is gunna lead...another pod v panel debate.
neway you should check out this new intake k&n have brought out,it has an over the radiator cold air intake which funnels the air over to a pod enclosed in a heat shield...it looks like it would work a treat.

[evil_monkey]

well if you want a pod vs panel debate :P ive had a pod and ive had a panel and all i can say is at least the panel is legal

[sircruisealotVS]

lol...its only illegal if they see it.
but seriously,its a bit of a grey zone,but im almost certain they are legal if the have a boxed inclosure/heat shield around the pod.
but i have neither for mine. i a pod on my old vn calais too and it passed a rwc (road worthy certificate) for when i sold that.so.....

[mouce]

I had it checked with VicRoads and they said that a pod is legal (boxed or unboxed) so long as the engine noise (inlet) does not exceeed EPA regulations and the exhaust gas emissions still meet EPA limits.

I've been getting around with an unboxed pod now for more than a year (In Victoria) and have the e-mail from VicRoads sitting in the Glove-Box incase any cop wants to argue it with me.

Check with the regulatory body in your state. You might be surprised at how helpful they can be. I certainly was

[RVN 355]

stick with a vs v8 airbox and cai thats what im running and i got no issues, pods are fine, but if you can get the pod with diret cold air they do work really well.

[TriK]

thanks alot guys i really appreciate the input from people with the know-how because i dont know how to do anything with cars haha. i'll have a look at the panel filter and pod when i go into the shops today hopefully. Im guessing holden dealers are only open weekdays so ill have to look into that another time.

[fazz1977]

I run a K&N panel filter and a VS s/c V6 CAI. Between the 2 items i've noticed a massive increase in midrange torque and about a 8-10% increase in fuel economy (unless I put the boot in all the time). At stock my VP wagon would pull 350-400kms a tank, now it's more like 450+.

[Emackulation]

I can't say the CAI did anything for me compaired to removing the belly. I was hoping for more, but its all in your head.

[RVN 355]

vs cai good option vn ss loves it k & N plus good leads , good oil and regular service good ecoconomy +,good exhaust system nice!!!

[VNPOWER]

Guys all the gains you think ur getting its all in your head, like the guy posted above. Ive had both 'pod' and 'cai with k&n' and i cant notice anything and its not even worth it. For the price of the cai and k&n, your better off getting a cheap pod filter. They work the same, the difference isnt even noticable from the hot air and cold air getting sucked in.

I dont know why this whole forum believes in them, the only mods worth doing were the extractors and exhaust, and that was because i got them cheap second hand.

[Soybean]

is it possible to get a larger airbox out of say a vt and fit it in a vr?
with a k&n panel filter would it flow more then an equivalent vr box with k&n or a pod?
i just ask because ive got a spare vt airbox in my boot!

[RVN 355]

is it possible to get a larger airbox out of say a vt and fit it in a vr?
with a k&n panel filter would it flow more then an equivalent vr box with k&n or a pod?
i just ask because ive got a spare vt airbox in my boot!

vs supercharged air box fits

[1991_Vn2nV]

Isnt the VS supercharged air box the same size though? Or is it different?

[nopatcla]

remember to reset your IAC after doing the CAI mod, and you will definitely notice an improvement,and while you are about it , you might as well give the throttle body a good clean.

[fazz1977]

The VS SC V6 air box is exactly the same as a VN/VP one. The VS V8 one is different. I tried fitting a VY air box to the VP, way too tall, was worth a shot though.

[immortality]

the later model V8 airboxes flow more but the outlet faces the wrong way for the V6 guys, apparently the the top half of the V6 box with the aluminum trumpet is actually a flow restriction??? i just fitted a pod where the airbox use to be and i'm in the process of fabricating some sort of heat sheild. it seems to have a better throttle responce with the pod. when i finish all my other modes like exhaust etc i'm goingto get it re-tuned on a dyno, i'll fit the old airbox first and do back to back runs with the old box and the new pod etc and see if there really is a difference, might take a while though

[nopatcla]

Guys all the gains you think ur getting its all in your head, like the guy posted above. Ive had both 'pod' and 'cai with k&n' and i cant notice anything and its not even worth it. For the price of the cai and k&n, your better off getting a cheap pod filter. They work the same, the difference isnt even noticable from the hot air and cold air getting sucked in.

I dont know why this whole forum believes in them, the only mods worth doing were the extractors and exhaust, and that was because i got them cheap second hand.

Is it all in my head when my cars fuel consumption improves . Maybe the power of positive thinking is wayyy underated !