"Cop chip" on eBay

[pete_pumpkin]

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....DME:L:RTQ:AU:1

I emailed the seller asking the difference between this and a standard chip. His response:

"Hi this chip change the setting for the gear change and ad 15-20 hp plus if you put cold air intake more i hope this help"

I ddin't think the VP commodore had any gear change calibirations in the ecu???

Hmm, I don't think the seller knows what he's on about? Or am I missing something..

[Melchior3]

Personally, I wouldn't buy a chip from ebay, I'd rather get it done profesionally and know it's actually been done right.
I've had mates buy them off ebay and they've made no difference at all, I think alot of them are just chips from wrecked cars that they've perhaps attempted to remap.

[greenfoam]

That's right the VP has no computer controlled gearbox, it's bullshit plus there is no such thing as a police chip in a Commodore

[mouce]

That's right the VP has no computer controlled gearbox, it's bullshit plus there is no such thing as a police chip in a Commodore

Damn straight. There was no difference in the memcal chips between the police pack commodores and the ones that left the showroom floor. All that talk about police chips in VN commodores is bullshit.

And I couldn't help but laugh at the comment about the gear shift speeds being altered, sounds like this guy is missing a chromosome or two.

[Stevob]

That's right the VP has no computer controlled gearbox, it's bullshit plus there is no such thing as a police chip in a Commodore

I found some chips under my seat when I bought my car and it's an ex cop car.

[vinnywelsh]

I found some chips under my seat when I bought my car and it's an ex cop car.

These chips you speak of, they werent of the corner store variety were they

[VN_Luke]

I chipped my tooth once. i could really feel the difference.

[Doctor Bob]

i cant believe people actually still try this crap

Rob

[PaRaDoX]

mmmm chips....

[mouce]

i cant believe people actually still try this crap

Rob

People still try it because people still fall for it. When it becomes widely known that there is no such thing as a 'cop chip', then they will try something else.

[samuels]

That's right the VP has no computer controlled gearbox, it's bullshit plus there is no such thing as a police chip in a Commodore

i'm sorry to say......but this is incorrect,i have a cousin that has an ex police VP with the chip still in it,they forgot to take it out when the vehicle was written off
also when we work on VP's,the ECU's(they seem not to worry about taking their chips out)they have had problems with the ECU's,you see on the chip "property of tas police"...

[samuels]

Damn straight. There was no difference in the memcal chips between the police pack commodores and the ones that left the showroom floor. All that talk about police chips in VN commodores is bullshit.

And I couldn't help but laugh at the comment about the gear shift speeds being altered, sounds like this guy is missing a chromosome or two.

police vehicles have whats called a pursuit chip,not as good as a top quality chip,but they DO have a chip of their own....they are fitted at GMH after the state government buy fleets for the police service,you will also find that ambulances have modified chips too ,fire trucks have modified engines to get maximum speed quickly.

[samuels]

i cant believe people actually still try this crap

Rob

not being rude,but you may want to go visit your local police service contractor(mechanical repairs) you might be surprised

[samuels]

all you non believers of police chips,there was once a time that it was law,that the chip be removed after the police service had finished with the vehicle,usually between 50,000-80,000K's,but somewhere along the line the law disappated,now i'm assuming it is for revenue raising,for all the people that bought the vehicles at auction,speeding,because the owner of the car didn't know any different that it had a modified chip in it.
i also know for a fact that the ambulance service use modified chips/ECU's as i use to work for a contractor that assembled the ambulances for the service.

[Doctor Bob]

samuels, having worked in Holden Experimental during the era of VN to VX, there was never a police performance memcal made for the police.
there are some specific units for RFI & one for VTV8 to increase the idle speed.
If you have one of these id be very interested to see where it originated from as Holden didnt make them, i suggest you try to find some facts instead of listening to rumours.

for the LAST TIME, the "Police Chip" is a myth
PROVE me wrong.

Rob

[samuels]

samuels, having worked in Holden Experimental during the era of VN to VX, there was never a police performance memcal made for the police.
there are some specific units for RFI & one for VTV8 to increase the idle speed.
If you have one of these id be very interested to see where it originated from as Holden didnt make them, i suggest you try to find some facts instead of listening to rumours.

for the LAST TIME, the "Police Chip" is a myth
PROVE me wrong.

Rob

bottom line is you prove me wrong
for starters the police service didn't use the VN commodores,they picked up on the VP,they had their fleet covered with the then falcons,the chip does exist,for legal reasons i CANNOT give you any contacts,texts or pictures,and believe you me i have them....i realise it has nothing to do with gearbox issues,but it does have concerns with high rev range-hence pursuit.
go back to the days of the falcons,ford made a different motor to the general population motor vehicle,different compression ratios and differential ratios.(the days of non ECU vehicles)
now GMH do the same service,i dare say you have been kept in the dark as to what is fitted to the police service cars(as you stated you work in experimental),granted,not all police cars have these chips,I.E under cover ops,detective vehicles,BUT you will find highway patrol vehicles have them fitted.

[samuels]

if people read the link correctly about this issue.

vp commodore V6 Auto computer and chip out of police car number on chip is 1H9230

he is stating that the computer is out of an auto VP (not that theres any difference,but for legal reasons he is being honest,he has to state auto)he is not stating that it changes the setting for the gear change and ad 15-20 hp, he may well of said that to you in private,even though it is not correct.

this # is also the same out of my cousins ex police car....1H9230,this is all i can say on the matter,also as i said in a previous post,down here they have a stamp on it stating "property of tasmania police service"

[samuels]

samuels, having worked in Holden Experimental during the era of VN to VX, there was never a police performance memcal made for the police.
there are some specific units for RFI & one for VTV8 to increase the idle speed.
If you have one of these id be very interested to see where it originated from as Holden didnt make them, i suggest you try to find some facts instead of listening to rumours.

for the LAST TIME, the "Police Chip" is a myth
PROVE me wrong.

Rob

OK.....i have been told i can give you a part # to check,it's not an australian part # though(... so i'm covered legally)
AC Delco...1416160232.
if you work for GMH i'm sure you can cross reference that # ?

[samuels]

samuels, having worked in Holden Experimental during the era of VN to VX, there was never a police performance memcal made for the police.
there are some specific units for RFI & one for VTV8 to increase the idle speed.
If you have one of these id be very interested to see where it originated from as Holden didnt make them, i suggest you try to find some facts instead of listening to rumours.

for the LAST TIME, the "Police Chip" is a myth
PROVE me wrong.

Rob

as i have an extremely high ranking officer in the service,he told me about this site,it covers the basics,but it says what i said in a previous post "speed limited" when vehicle is auctioned off to the public.
WHAT does GMH have to hide??/...what is the "9C1 pack".i have found that IIRC it is the engine performance chip ONLY for "special vehicles".

http://www.policeassn.org.nz/industrial/HandSitem2.htm

http://www.wapolun.org.au/pnews0306a.pdf

http://phorums.com.au/archive/index.php/t-141975.html

[samuels]

as i don't work for GMHA,i'm not authorised to view page,doctor bob may like to take a look for me,if he wouldn't mind,GMH and police vehicles(you can google it,if you can't get it from your log on),which i'm sure you have if your in the EXP dept?
looking forward to what you can tell me if you can access the page...thanks

[defa]

i know someone in town here who took there vp to get a chip put in it. and the people said not to worry about it as the police chip had been left in there... i don't know how much truth there was in it. but this girl use to go on about it all the time.. she thought it was pretty cool i spose. lol

[samuels]

i know someone in town here who took there vp to get a chip put in it. and the people said not to worry about it as the police chip had been left in there... i don't know how much truth there was in it. but this girl use to go on about it all the time.. she thought it was pretty cool i spose. lol

there is truth to it,but i have since found out that GMH don't fit these chips for the service,a private contractor does,when the vehicle is sent to the contractor for lights,radio,antanae fit-outs,etc,etc
i also forgot to mention to doctor bob that i was offered a job at the police garage when they were about(as they are contracted out now for servicing)
now part of the job criteria was to remove and install chips in the pursuit vehicles..as stated in one of my posts i was employed by a private contractor to fit out ambulances,and we installed different chips into their ECU's
PS ....GMH however still do cater for the suspension and interior extras and bigger brakes,etc...

[samuels]

samuels, having worked in Holden Experimental during the era of VN to VX, there was never a police performance memcal made for the police.
there are some specific units for RFI & one for VTV8 to increase the idle speed.
If you have one of these id be very interested to see where it originated from as Holden didnt make them, i suggest you try to find some facts instead of listening to rumours.

for the LAST TIME, the "Police Chip" is a myth
PROVE me wrong.

Rob

can you confirm that chip part # from AC Delco,whether it's a chip designed for police forces through out the world?
also i have to make an apology,our police vehicles aren't contracted out for servicing,etc,etc,they still have their police garage,and i was talking to head mechanic today and he confirmed that the service does use a specific chip(performance) and also he cleared up about the auto shift,they are modified.i can't see the modification he mentioned would really be feasable,as they would have to go thru many,many trannies.

[mouce]

The only way to settle this is to get a VN cop car and a VN stocker and compare the two chips. Let someone like greenfoam have a look at it on his fancy little EPROM reader/burner and let us know what (if any differences there were).

And Samuels, how would a modified chip alter the gear change points on a gearbox that wasn't electronically controlled (ie. the VN)?

[greenfoam]

Yes but Samuels is saying all cop chips are removed before the cars are sold, I know people with ex highway BT1's and they are the same as every other VN with the same memcal. I think the only reason VN pursuit cars looked like they went hard back in 1990 when they were busting you/me, especially me was because they used to pull massive burnouts on take off due to the crappy stock tires