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    Hey Guys

    I'm sick and tired of my mate telling me how much he's Ea Falcon could bet my commy of the lights and i want to shut him up. ( i would shut him up at the light but don't my Ps or Ls lol)


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    "The improvements in the Series II have put the Falcon on a much more even footing with the Commodore, however Holden's V6 still has the edge in performance and fuel economy."

    got that off an nrma review of the ea 3.9 v6 auto, the 0-100 was somthing over 10 secs whereas the vn is arround the 8 second mark off the top of my head. if you read the write up they did, they keep on saying that none of the times they recorded could beat or even get close to the vn's 6. mate i reckon your vn would rip the s*** out of the ea from the lights, and the only thing your mate would be doing is running skid marks in his undies!!

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    Unless his EA is a MPI 5 speed manual the VN will be faster, if he has a manual S pack with the MPI motor and he can change gears fast and you are racing to over 100km/h and are not driving my Lexcen, forget it

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfoam
    Unless his EA is a MPI 5 speed manual the VN will be faster, if he has a manual S pack with the MPI motor and he can change gears fast and you are racing to over 100km/h and are not driving my Lexcen, forget it
    Sums it up pretty nicely actually. The CFI motor was a DOG. The MPFI motor was quite nice (in comparison at least) and with a manual behind it was not a bad goer. Auto versus auto though, the VN should win to 100, as the falcon has a rediculously tall first gear and second is a little bit longer than the VN as well if memory serves. That's the theory anyway, too many factors to give a definite answer of course, only real way to tell is to take the two cars in question down the dragstrip. And from what I've been reading, your Lexcen would probably hand pretty much any stock E-series a whuppin greenfoam! Let alone a bloody EA

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    A mate of mine has what is commonly known around the group as "FALCONSTEIN". its an EA, with an EF motor, EL xr8 dash, centre consol and carpet, and Fairmont leather seats. After he sorted out the problems that came up from such a stupid creation,and replaced the dead gearbox, he slapped some pacemakers on it and a 2 1/2 inch. When i dragged him i didnt beat him by as much as i thought i would, but i did beat him.

    I topped out 2nd and he was gaining on me, trying to pull in that car length i had gained, but dont forget, that stupid creation of a car has had a later model engine with more power put in it, but against a stock EA, you should munch it

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    vn should win peak out the gears and hold the stall at 2k.... GO VN POWA
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    My mate stepped out of a EA 6. 5 speed, Into a VR Berlina 4 speed, And he said the VR shit on his old EA for fuel and power.
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    Come on people , we are talking about a bunch of used taxi's here? not even worth the write up.

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    What I'm going to tell you might amaze you but in 1989 these were the 3 fastest production sedans in the world

    1. Commodore VN V8 Executive 0-100 7.0, 1/4 mile 15.1
    2. Ford Tarus SHO 0-100 6.7, 1/4 mile 15.2
    3. Ford Falcon EA S pack, 0-100 7.8, 1/4 mile 15.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfoam
    What I'm going to tell you might amaze you but in 1989 these were the 3 fastest production sedans in the world

    1. Commodore VN V8 Executive 0-100 7.0, 1/4 mile 15.1
    2. Ford Tarus SHO 0-100 6.7, 1/4 mile 15.2
    3. Ford Falcon EA S pack, 0-100 7.8, 1/4 mile 15.5
    i believe the first 2 but Nooo not the EA.....no matter the motor in it,they were just a dog of a car,thats why ford so quickly moved on to the next model....

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    I got an early EB 3.9 that goes pretty good (considering it's on gas) 0-100 though, god, 10-12 seconds? I'll check...

    Next time I'm near a 100 zone....

    After I get a RWD....
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    Hey guys.

    I Drive an EA every day. I spent a few years playing with the thing changing cams, gearboxes diffs etc etc.

    In standard form, the auto EA is absoloutly useless. It has a 1800rpm stall, 2.77 diff ratio, meaning it takes untill about 50km/h before you get into the decent power range, by then any commo, or decent car for that matter will be long gone!! (1st gear can be stretched out to about 95km/h!!!! a ****in joke)
    However, the manual was a different story. Standard they ran a 15.5 down the 1/4 mile, and had a top speed of 225km/h. (Basically on par with the VL turbo).

    The 3.9 CFI motors are pretty much phased out now, but their was actually a few of them that came out with 3.2L. Ford did a recall on them and offered an upgrade to the 3.9L for a few hundred dollers, that tells you have usless the 3.2 was.

    Now if we start talking about non standard EA's VS non standard VN V6's... I would have to say the V6 is going to have issues.
    An EA MPI, manual with a 2,5 exhaust a set of diff gears will run near the flat 15 sec mark, spend $300 on a cam, and you are now running 14's.
    An auto with the same mods will be about 0.4 sec off the pace.

    I drive a ghia with full electrics, LPG and 330,000 km on the clock. Bottom end has never been touched, it runs mid 14's, slightly slower then my V6 gemini. Can honestly say I have raced countless V6 and V8 commos, and have been beaten twice on the street. One was a manual VnSS, the other a VS V8 berlina... both wer not stock.

    So yeah, i drive both, and that my 2 cents.

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    i actually owned a ea 89 model multi point and that was in great nick theres no way its got as much balls as my vp which is stock as well or a vn for that matter when it comes down to it its whoes driving it

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    Ive always hated EA falcons, my mate has one on gas with 400.000k's on the clock. I once dragged him and i ended up about 10car lengths away.
    But ive seen heaps at calder running 9's and 10's with turbos. So they are obviously way better to do up over vn's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VNPOWER
    Ive always hated EA falcons, my mate has one on gas with 400.000k's on the clock. I once dragged him and i ended up about 10car lengths away.
    But ive seen heaps at calder running 9's and 10's with turbos. So they are obviously way better to do up over vn's.
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    Would you guys be intrested in coming along for a race day the next time the eseries club (EA-EL's)hires out heathcote park raceway?

    Holden VS Ford!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gemini
    OMF Owned! rofl thats funny shit
    hmm.. maybe i worded it wrong. wat i meant to say was i ended up 10car lengths in front. not behind

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    Quote Originally Posted by samuels
    i believe the first 2 but Nooo not the EA.....no matter the motor in it,they were just a dog of a car,thats why ford so quickly moved on to the next model....
    Well there's plenty of bone stock ones that have run a 15.3 with modern tires on them and time slips to back it up. Wheels magazine ran that 15.5, I have the magazine that lists those times. This is the manual port injected version we are talking about not the 3 speed auto slug version : )

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    Yeah spot on greenfoam.

    I gotta say, I have never has as much fun in a car then when i was racing the EA on the street. There was nothing better then seeing the faces of fulley sik commos getting munched by a stock looking EA on gas... LOL... never get tired of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simc
    Would you guys be intrested in coming along for a race day the next time the eseries club (EA-EL's)hires out heathcote park raceway?

    Holden VS Ford!
    I wouldn't mind a spin but my drive-shaft is in need of repair.
    But i won't race EF's well i wouldn't race my brothers old one it was to bloody fast for stock.
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    Hmm well my mates EA was the auto column shift dump box on gas, had to kick dash everytime u turn corner to get indicator to work, neways this thing had NOTHING, alittle suzuki swift pizza delivery guy smashed us from the lights down the road. This car was in real bad condition, Though i wouldnt understimate the EA mpi 5 spd lsd with zorst work and little engine mods.

    I have seen a turbo setup in the EB 5 spd with lsd, running 8 psi boost now i know that thing would munch on our vn/p's
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    It's all well and good to say that with a little work on the car it would beat it. But let's face it, with a little work on a VNV6 it would once again crap all over the EA.

    Stock Vs Stock the EA would just be a dot in the rear view mirror.
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    The EB was much better, That would give a VN-P a good run, We hired one years ago it wasn't bad at all had some speed.
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