vn ss vs fairmont
ive got a stock 89 vn ss and hes got a 97 el fairmont straight 6 four litre with extractors exhaust done he reckons his car would be faster than my ss because we have the same torque and kw but my ss is 1300-1350 kilo and his cars at least 200kg heavier so which do you think would be faster.
and also i was wondering if anyone can tell me how to fix my fuel guage its all over the place it can be almost out of fuel and it says its full its a serious problem since i dont keep a jerry can in the car with me
you forgot to mention whether either car was manual or auto (which can make a heck of a difference)...but over the quarter mile i see no reason why you shouldnt beat him.
both auto and another question i had is would i need to roll the guards in the ss if i wanted 18 inch rims
umm,depends if its lower..or getting lower when you do it...then you might have scrubbing issues. on standard ss fe2 suspension i reckon you sould be sweet.
oh...and with the fairmont being an auto you would definately flog your mate on a quarter mile...those ford auto trans are soooooooo laggy its not funny.
have to disagree with you on this oneOriginally Posted by sircruisealotVS
....sure the VN will lead out on take off....but the fairmont will have you by the end of the 1/4....these late model fords are just as freakish as the VN....it's a pity ford didn't pick up on it earlier.
I figure you car if it's in proper running condition would run a low 15 second 1/4 mile somewhere around 15.2 or 15.3 if it's an auto SS. The only EL that's quicker than that is the EL GT, any V8 VN including an auto Calais is faster than an EL 185kw XR8. So yeah he would want to have some mighty good extractors because the fairmont auto is a second slower than the XR8
not wanting to start an argument.... but your figures of 0-100 in ..bugga iv'e forgotten,something like 14-15 secs...well when they bought out the VN they were advertising 0-100 in 10 secs,and 15.6? is rather slow for a stock VN over a 1/4.i've seen stock geminis do a 1/4 in 13 secs,so that in itself says something.just take a look a victor brays cars..VN's not i know...but he has his chevs running 6-7 secs over the 1/4 and thats worked,so i'm sure a VN could do an 11 sec run thru...but back on track,i still say fairmont would run a ring over a 1/4..
What you talking about Willis
fiery red vn manual
didnt u say its a ss? doesnt that make it a v8, versus a straight 6, id say he get in font at first but u will beat him
Too many projects.....
VN SS would beat a EL 6cyl over the quarter not a problem! Samuals, Stock geminis run 13's? Are you for real?? A gemini with a vn v6 would only run mid 13's, i cant see a stock 4 cyl gemini running 13 seconds!
The ef/l are shit at the take off, but they do have some balls up in the rev range, Highly doubt they will beat the VNSS 5litre
Nate
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My old Gemini was hard worked and would be lucky to run 16's
My brothers old EF Ghia LSD 5 speed Manual beat his mates AU II Ghia V8. This car (The AU) runs 14.2 at Calder.
But i would say the bigger capacity of the 5LT would get it over the line when speeds got up.
the fairmonts are also speed limited to 180kms
I didn't do it
well your gemini wasn't hard worked to get 16's over the 1/4My old Gemini was hard worked and would be lucky to run 16's
My brothers old EF Ghia LSD 5 speed Manual beat his mates AU II Ghia V8. This car (The AU) runs 14.2 at Calder.
But i would say the bigger capacity of the 5LT would get it over the line when speeds got up.
yes i'm for real.....
a gemini with a V6 in it runs 9-10 secs over the 1/4
if your in tassie pop on down and watch the super nats....on all w/end
Too many projects.....
A Gemini with a v6 running 9-10 over the quarter, you're on drugs man! It would take around 450-500hp to run a 10 second pass in a gemini. I have been to the drags quiet often and i have never seen a stock v6 powered gemini run faster than a mid 13! Go to the drags in the real world not in fairy land!
Customize your life.
16's from a 1.6lt engine is something to be proud of.well your gemini wasn't hard worked to get 16's over the 1/4
It had cam head piston's done, 4 speed, Was very light, It had fuel issues must have been a pump we thought or something we could never find it, But when in 3rd flat out it would chug and miss. This was a problem we never found.
boosted!
LOL they'res no doubt the EL would loose....
ive done a fair bit of dragging with fords... all of my mates with fords think they're quicker than mine... never lost to a ford... (only a 31 skyline with a turbosh... and a statesmenVT...)
i dragged my mate not too long ago, eb series 2... straight 6, rebuilt gearbox with performance parts, full exhust system (cat converter included) and a LSD and his was chipped... i still ended up 1-2 carlengths ahead before i stopped because we were speeding....
3/3 times i won before he gave up... then i dragged my mates EL with a full exhust system, it was slower than the eb, the fact is they'er just heavy mofo's that have more power at the flywheel but what gets to the wheels in ratio with the weight of the ride is what matters, oh yeah mines also lowered with a pod filter :P...
well it really does just goes to show what you really know.....did you read my earlier posts about vic d bray...his chevies are running 6-7's over the 1/4 and thats in his street rods...he's down to something like 5.5 in his railers....
by the way who's on the drugs man
iv'e been to the drag scene more times than your mother cares to count your bum changes ....
smooth moderator
lol, theyre talking street registered cars here, things that dont even have roll cages, near, if not stock engines and body/suspension. not a car thats been built specially to go in a straight line as fast as it can.
get on the right track already.
seems to be all a fair call. the EL xr8 185kw model is only good for a 15.2- 15.5 pass factory specs.. altho i think there is a bit of myth to the 15.1 quota on the SS 1/4 time. If the fairmont was optioned with Tickford spec engine and higher XR6 3:45 diff ratio plus a decent exhaust set up, it'd then be good for a 15.5-16.0. So all in all it could be a close race depending on conditions, reaction times etc.. but those are only if's. Otherwise the Monty dosnt have a hope in hell.
Turbos suxI'd rather be BLOWN
The 15.1 was the Executives time, The SS would have been slightly slower I'm guessing.
The SV89 manual could pull a 14.6 and it had nothing different on it expect maybe a different exhaust and the memcal, I'm sure the headers were the normal VN tubes
no $hit slick....i was using them as examples.....but if you all say 15's for the VN's well that must be it
heres something for you to quizz over,don't strain yourself now will you
your mentioned 450-500 HP......OK for this example for obvious reasons the 1/4 is not long enough, for this example,although in some cases it might well be.(depending on rigs driver experience)...put a 500HP cummins log truck(unlaiden)with jinker backed up against your standard holden or ford,who would win?it's not an easy question, unless you have experienced this kind of horsepower,so you can laugh at my example,but i'm interested in your reply.....
hahaha i belive it is a joke that the ford will be in fron at any of the time my reasons why
1) the cars may have the same peak powres and torque but i'll put my bets on the 5.0l v8 haveing i better average torque and power(ie more down low etc)
2)its a 200 kg heavies i belive in the gli vs vn the fairmont may be 300+kg more
so there for i recon it will get out to a better start and finish good to
my logic anyways maybe wrong
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