impact on CAI on fuel

[Mr_Slim]

hey guys, you may have seen some of my other posts on what i've done to my new VP Calais. I'll be getting it back from the mechanic tommorow with a full service being done, and the auto converted to manual, with a custom 8-bolt flywheel put on

ill prob be going with new springs and shocks eventually, just depends on how much is left over, and ill be looking at some exhausts over the weekend. i know all they really do is make noise, but i like that noise

aaaand finally we come to the engine mods. K&N filter is def on the list. Extractors are prob out as theyre a bit outta my price range at the moment. CAI however, i was thinkin of gettin the VS S/C one and fitting it (or how much to have professionally fit???)

but i was wondering - does this have a positive impact on economy, as most people such as SS inductions claim? does anyone have some comparison figures of how much fuel theyre saving now that it's fitted? or the other way - does this bugger up your economy? anyone have evidence of that?

my other thinking was a v8 throttle body, but im pretty much certain ill lose economy with that. if someone could provide some rough stats of L/100km or KM/tank that'd be awesome

pretty soon ill be

[HoZy]

Lol exhaust just for noise? CAI Proffessionally fit? Loose economy on larger throttle body?

Exhaust better flow helps keep motor cooler & a gain in HP + the added beefier tone. CAI keeps motor cooler allowing for more power/torque and increased engine life. Larger throttle body means more air into the motor meaning better power/cooler & increased economy. The more air you get in aswell as out helps for a whole lot of reasons.

You really are not a car person are you. Not having a dig at you but please research a bit mate, This is a very "Help me i know nothing about cars" type of thread.

Cheers
MaT

[Mr_Slim]

the research i have done says that exhaust didn't do much apart from noise. personally i thought it added a bit (my old car had a 2.5inch from catback) but others said it did nothing

the CAI i've read increases economy, but i've also read that about memcals or chips, but then seen people complain about how they're guzzling now

and throttle body i was told that the more fuel that is allowed in, the more it is going to use. and the more air that is in there, the faster it is going to burn i (however giving you more power)

so im just going on what other people have already said. i'd just like to hear it for myself

[Stretchomatic]

just on the exhaust question...the most powerful skyline (at the time) in aus was actually quieter than a stock skyline...so no...they arent just for noise...

and yes the memcal would probly increase fuel usage if u gun the hell out of the car with it...anything uses a lot of fuel when being flogged.

[Mr_Slim]

So the general consensus is that i should buy the cold air intake.

i rang my local holden dealer to get a price on a VS S/C CAI, and the bloke said that it wasn't holden standard issue, rather it was an external company, and the price was $450. i nearly fell off my chair and then hung up

there are ones on eBay that are around the $50 mark, and are listed as "Genuine Holden" which seems odd, seeing as Holden said they didn't make them

has anyone used one of these eBay ones? if you search "vp cold air" they are pretty much the only ones to come up. how do you guys rate them? They look much different to say an SS induction one, however i've read they're very over-rated...

[FadeToBlack]

I put in my CAI about a week ago and i've definately noticed improved economy, it costs $50 from holden and is easy to install yourself just have to cut a bit out of your airbox.

EDIT: Link removed, if you happened to look at it before removal please gouge out your eyes.

[stocky]

yes holden do make them,i bought all 3 CAI pieces for $66 all together. those intakes on ebay are usually the holden intakes, theyre what youre after

[Mr_Slim]

soooo... Holden may be bullsh*tting me?

I mean from what everyone has ever said on here, you can get it at your local Holden dealer for around the price you've just quoted

[foammedia]

Your Holden are just a bit silly, Walk in the door of the spare parts section at your local Holden and say this.

Hello Mr Spare parts man : )
Can I please order, one VS V6 supercharged cold air intake, the connecting pipe to the airbox and the two little screws that hold it to the top of the radiator/cover plastic thing.

Come back the next day, pay your < 60 bucks and go and install it , if you dont want to cut a notch out of your stock airbox then order the VS SC airbox BOTTOM half as well

[foammedia]

Also if you are insterested in free power from your VN-VR V6 the most important thing to do is in the link below, nothing else is so easy and gains so much

Throttle body 100% open HOW-TO

[VP_S_5sp]

In Reference to the link in Post #6

"NONE of this page is to be copied and/or distributed without written permission from the author."

[foammedia]

In Reference to the link in Post #6

"NONE of this page is to be copied and/or distributed without written permission from the author."

You just copied it, oh shit so did I when I quoted you

[Muffin Man]

I put in my CAI about a week ago and i've definately noticed improved economy, it costs $50 from holden and is easy to install yourself just have to cut a bit out of your airbox.

are some people just idiots or should i mistaken the world for not being able to read??

the link provided in post #6 has written in black lettering at the bottom

NONE of this page is to be copied and/or distributed without written permission from the author.

maybe if people did read what is written they would save lawyers so much time on cases listed in the courts everyday similar to these, for an author to write that it clearly defines he does not want it replicated in any state or form, espically with links form this site... the link is a private website and is to be kept that way....

to the poster of #6 or a modorater, it is requested that the information be removed immediatly aws im sure the poster has breached JustCommodores user rules, thank you

[foammedia]

are some people just idiots or should i mistaken the world for not being able to read??

the link provided in post #6 has written in black lettering at the bottom



maybe if people did read what is written they would save lawyers so much time on cases listed in the courts everyday similar to these, for an author to write that it clearly defines he does not want it replicated in any state or form, espically with links form this site... the link is a private website and is to be kept that way....

to the poster of #6 or a modorater, it is requested that the information be removed immediatly aws im sure the poster has breached JustCommodores user rules, thank you

Are you serious? What drugs are you on? He linked the page which is a well known how-to for installing a CAI, he didn't copy anything from the page, he linked it and it is not a private website if it was it would be 1. on a private network 2. there is no 2. This is the stupidist dribble I've read all year If you go out of your way to make a page like that to help people do something the last thing you want is a couple of weirdos start craping on about private websites and copyright

[hakhawk]

and who says he didnt ask for permission to link to it?

anyway, its a link, not like he copy and pasted and claimed it as his own.

get over it, this is the internet, place of porn, piracy and plagirism. lol

[VN-88]

mate, cai's are easy to instal, cost me 45 for a sc v6 one, with out bottom half as mine was already cut from old owner but no cai. easy shit to install. as for econemy and all that crap, either u have power or econemy, if ur after econemy and no power get a 3 cyclinder, if ur going the oppoistie do ur car up with chip, exaust, cai, (v8 tb wont do shit) as ive been told the v6 standard tb already has plenty of air going through, maybe larger plenium pipes would be bettr but costy

[DRAGONKZ]

and who says he didnt ask for permission to link to it?

He didnt, thats the whole reason Muffin Man posted in the first place

[deathsminion]

Muffin Man, Dragon and I all know the owner of that website, and he has said that he didn't give permission.
Paging mod to this thread...

[foammedia]

It doesn't matter it's just a link, I've posted some very useful stuff on Street Commodores and here, I think it's time to grow up. There's shouldn't be any fighting between the two forums. JC has a much better server and you can search stuff without it craping out and SC has some more hard core users because of the magazine, they are both worth reading. Did you notice The CAI page doesn't even work anyway . The other day ttvn posted a whole heap of much more important stuff someone from this site wrote and no one stressed one bit

[jdd]

anyway, its a link, not like he copy and pasted and claimed it as his own.

It doesn't matter it's just a link

I think you need to educate yourself on what the message at the bottom of the linked website actually means from a legal perspective.
Your attitude and other’s with similarly small minds have stuffed forums like this.

[stocky]

I think you need to educate yourself on what the message at the bottom of the linked website actually means from a legal perspective.
Your attitude and other’s with similarly small minds have stuffed forums like this.

yes cause plagiarism is the biggest problem with the internet today......

anyways, as for the copyright issue.

there is nothing wrong with providing a link to a website. if there was, we wouldnt have any search engines cause thats basically all they do. if we couldnt link to other peoples websites, then the internet would be f***ing useless

if he copied and pasted information from that webpage onto here without permission, then there would be an issue, but since he didnt, then hes done nothing wrong. learn what a copyright is and get over it.

[mixin]

Ahh well, looks like the old 'nut has killed off the piccies.

Tick tock tick tock, waiting for the page to be deleted or placed on another url.

Only takes a minority to spoil things.

[hakhawk]

lol, foammedia tells me the pics have been down for a year or so.

ok, he put the site on the internet for people to look at, if he wanted a select few to look at it, he wouldnt passworded the site, or created a document to send to select people to view. he didnt do this, he posted it up on the internet for all to see.

ok, now im gonna link to a google search where people can find a link to a site for howto install a cai, but theres no pictures:

http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=e...G=Search&meta=

i can link to google without harrassment yes?

[FadeToBlack]

Sorry I didn't realise the pictures were down, they were up when I used the site a couple of weeks ago to install the CAI. I'l remove the link, which I originally found by another criminal linking to it on a forum. If you search the forums here your bound to find some instructions on installing it.

[Mr_Slim]

soooo... your saying CAI is good for fuel?