does anyone know?I cant seem to find it.
i dono but i ripped one thismorning at the lights. it wasnt one of the new ones. i think it was a EL or something.
my mates got one and he says its all that, but he has had issues with it and reckons he will smoke me anyways. He also reckons his XR6 would beat a XR6 turbo......WTF. Its the newer type model.This/last year.
The new XR6 turbos go pretty hard. my mates dad just got one. 260kw out of the factory and it goes pretty dam good. But id still prefer the new XR8
The standard XR6's are not that quick. That includes BA and BF. The XR6T tho...thats a different story. I'd be confident giving it a drag in a stock VN.
well im running 8.5sec 0-100 and if he beats me he will prob enter his car in this years indy thats how stoked he will be......and he will do a stupid dance and song everytime i see him just to remind me how much better his car is.Doesnt really bother me too much.
Stock XR6 BA/BF will do about 15.3 if I remeber correctly. I think 15.5 was the auto time. Dont quote me.
The XR6T on the other hand your looking at high 12's. There was a guy the other night at calder with just an edit did a 12.68.
thats the 1/4 mile time i take it
You should remind him of the price difference. If you spent what his cars worth on yours, you would have one fast ride.
Yeah, i think it was from motor mag. So shave a few tenths off it.Originally Posted by S Pack
The quickest N/A BA i know of is the Jim mock one that was about 14.1.
My VN V6 is almost the exact same speed as a BA non turbo from a rolling start, might get him a bit off the line and he might get me back a bit on the very top end. But I'd say they would be quicker than the majority of VN V6's. The BA does about 15.3-.4 1/4 mile
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crap that no good
oh wait
I thought you meant turbo!!
I don't know the non-turbo specs, but they're roughly about the same speed as a stocko vn/vp![]()
The BA (and BF if anyone gives a rats) XR6-NA has the same engine and drivetrain as the BA XT povvo pack. Only real performance mod is that the suspension is slightly different and the LSD is a common option. So yeah, 182Kw six, (BF has 190Kw i think) in 1700 odd kilos of barge arse motor vehicle, and if it's the four speed auto it still has the same insanely tall 1st gear ratio that Ford have been running since the EA. Carpoint reckon the BA XR6 will haul itself to 100km/h in 7.7 seconds in auto form and take the quarter mile in 15.5, not bad considering how heavy the bugger is. Will it beat a V6 VN? Probably, will it beat an XR6-T? NO! XR6-NA = mid 15 second car on a good day, XR6-T = mid 14 second car on a bad day. S Pack, tell your mate to pull his head out of his arse. Hell, give him a run in the VN anyway, just for kicks, if he's as incompetent as he sounds you might even take the win.
I believe the figures from anyone saying a BA I6 can do under 8 sec to 100 is a stretch. Simple as this. My brothers car is a BA Fairmont I6, Ex-Cop. It pulls 150 in 2nd with more to come which isnt factory standard, But it is one slow car for the first 4 seconds on take off, He got done by a VP one day and just as it was starting to pull the gap back the guy slowed down and turned off. So i would give them somewhere in the 8's. On the freeway @ 100kp/h the VN's to VY's wouldn't stand a chance with it then, Now that is where the car is real quick, Now he is not to happy with it's lack of around town performance at all, He tells me he can't pull in-front of traffic as he once did with his old EF Fairmont 5 speed, I have been with him and he really gets mad with it. And is in-fact thinking of buying into a XR6T now.
Maybe a XR6 with LSD and better diff gears might leap faster off the mark for them 7 sec times but the rest no-way. But i spoke to herrod on his car and they say the drive-by wire control is pretty life-less and they can fix many things like that, so if they can do that you know Ford can to.
Alot of people will say it's the weight thats wrong ask herrod, The tranny is limited to 1200rpm take offs, This alone they say can shave .04-.06 off the times.
Originally Posted by Yoda
Originally Posted by SlickHolden
I agree with this.
They are pretty sluggish off the mark, but hit about 3-4 grand they really move. 150 in second gear is about standard for the BA'S, my old mans fairmont does this. Anything over 100km/h and you put your foot down in one, i doubt any vn-vy V6 commodore will keep up in auto form.
Like most fords, the BA has a stupidly tall first gear, you can nearly hit 100 if you hold it there! Because of this i would say the a VN would probably get an initail jump, but the BA would be right at you at 100km/h, over that you would be seeing the BA exhaust pipe.
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I don't think an auto BA would get past a decent auto VN untill the VN shifted to 3rd gear at 120 or so and the BA could hold second the enitre 1/4 mile, mine was able to gain about 4 meters on one from 60-120 but he had a passenger and I didn't, it was really really close, hardly anything in it. 1st gear should be all VN. Either way at the end of the 1/4 mile they should be side by side or the BA a 1-4 car lengths in front, it wouldn't be much
You brother shouldn't have gone an auto in the first place. Just like the commo auto (well in the VT onwards) the car is a pig and is slow. The manual's are a much better drive, either the 5sp or 6sp.Originally Posted by SlickHolden
Yes I have driven both, and this is what I found.
It's a Fairmont nothing can be done about that.
But after going from a Manual EF Fairmont which he had fitted he was looking for a touch of easy driving as work is a lot of stop starting and freeway.
But i think the electronic Auto from VR onwards was a hamper to all the models off the mark.
Originally Posted by Yoda
well my mates got a ba mach xr6 and when he stings it i can keep right up his arse till about 120 - 130 in my manual but my engine is tired i think it would be a close one and my mate has the auto tiptronic shit
My 5sp manual VN goes alot better then the autos. my dad has an auto VN and if i get of the line well and hit second gear well i rip it. but if i get a bit of wheel spin if i drop the clutch abit fast i loose a lot of time.
Generally the Commodore auto's are quicker than the manuals. If you've dragged 2 stock vp's with one manual and one auto, you can see the difference. It doesnt matter how good you are at changing gears, the auto is gonna be a better shift.