[ VIDEO ] - super charger fully hooked up!...ruber hose turns into a baloon.

[venomous]

UPDATED : 2 new vids the same, this time with the BOV on there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMnGwRdXyPM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrFi855XvtE


Um....my rubber hose thingy that connects the piping to the t/b puffs up like a baloon!!!!!!!!!!1......

i think i need BOV?..

VIDEO : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYhZFnY2Vwc

also, the whole charger and piping moves around when its reved up, i dont understand how its doing this as i have brackets on it to prevent it...i dunno wtf is going on LOL...

i found it quite funny, and scary, and..very loud.

also, even when i turn the clutch of so the charger is not activated, the engine has enough suction to spin the super chargers rotors on its own and it still whines lol..

this is... a very interesting setup.


Also heres some pics of the piping that i got made.. bit dodgey looking but looks like it can still flow some air.

[253@7k]

Turbosmart Vee Port with supercharger spring here we come...
Supercharger movement is scary but. Don't know how you would fix that.

[venomous]

i bought a monza blow of valve, still waiting for it to arrive,ebay is dodgey sometimes!..although , i did buy my charger from ebay and it arrived pretty fast hehe.

do i need a special type of bov for the charger?

[PaRaDoX]

LOL, thats gotta be damaging the charger, the backpressure is stupid...

that rubber piping is what 16 years old??? its already REALLY brittile i know its cracked on my car and wouldnt take much before it'll burst on yours, get steel piping to prevent charger movement

did you fit the charger yourself?? what charger is it?

[253@7k]

i bought a monza blow of valve, still waiting for it to arrive,ebay is dodgey sometimes!..although , i did buy my charger from ebay and it arrived pretty fast hehe.

do i need a special type of bov for the charger?

Never used ebay so I don't know. As for the BOV, yes you should use a special one (or thier different at least) but most good brands make a supercharger spring to replace the original one. These normaly cost about 10-12 bucks.

[stockvp]

thats scary looks like it was about to jump out at ya,what size is the T/B

[venomous]

the t/b is the stock t/b of a vn commodore, the super charger is the SC14 charger..

on the website they say it only pumps 3 to 4 psi on the commodore, but damn, hearing and seeing this thing i highly doubt its only that much.

[stockvp]

get a bigger throttle body that should help alittle

[stocky]

what did it cost all up? and how much power would it give?

[venomous]

all up 780$

It was this cheap because i made all the other brackets my self, installed it my self, relocated the coil pack my self etc..etc..

apparently it will give about 120 / 130 RWKW..i think it should be a bit more then that.

[sixshooter]

That was hillarious !!!

that rubber piping is what 16 years old??? its already REALLY brittile i know its cracked on my car and wouldnt take much before it'll burst on yours, get steel piping to prevent charger movement

Damn right !!!... your pipes should be able to stand the pressure that the blower makes or kaboom !!!...and install a pressure guage from the intake manifold to get an idea of what its pumping... or bye bye Buick !

[venomous]

well i have a boost guage here, but im not sure how and where to hook it up, and yer it was damn funny seing that pipe puff up like that lol.

[sixshooter]

Yeah... you just need to take the inlet manifold off and drill and tap a hole into the main plenum of the manifold for the boost sender unit or outlet pipe... alternatively you could tap into the pipe that comes off the blower... but it wouldn't give as accurate boost figure cause when the throttle body is closed it will be giving higher boost than whats at the manifold.

You should really fit a BOV on that outlet blower pipe...cause on that set up the blower it just pumping away with no where for the air to go when the throttle is closed....hence the pumped up rubber intake tubing.

Hope that helps.

[venomous]

hmm so i need to put it on the pipe where the air pod is ? i thought it was the one on the other side?

[sixshooter]

As with the blower moving around... by what I can see you brackets are just flat steel ??? ... use angle iron instead it will resist flexing better.

[sixshooter]

hmm so i need to put it on the pipe where the air pod is ? i thought it was the one on the other side?

No what you thought is correct... the "Blower Outlet Pipe"...(the one that connects to your throttle body... but as I said it will give false readings when the throttle is closed...the inlet manifold is a better place.

Edit: for the stuff written above I think your were refering to the boost guage ?

BOV goes on that same pipe

[253@7k]

Boost guage should just hook up to the intake manifold or plenum after the t/b.
Or just get a tee piece and hook it into an existing vacume line somewhere on the manifold.

[venomous]

can be anywhere on the manifold ? as long as its after the T/b ? right ?

cause i dont have any after the t/b i think i need to make one lol

[sixshooter]

Hmmm.... I'm just thinking I wonder what your brakes will feel like with this set up...cause they are meant to be getting vacuum to assist with the pedal...I'll have a look see on my motor where they put the brake booster line...

Edit:: as expected the booster line is on the vacuum side of the blower !!!... fcuknows what you can do with your brakes on that set-up ?

[venomous]

hmm yeah i seen a few setups of this with all types of rubber hoses coming in and out of vacum lines, i bassically have nothing there lol.

[gemini]

Does anyone know how to loosen the belt ? The reason I think is moving is because the belt is way to tight. Even if its not from the belt i would still like to make it a little more flexible than what it is.

venomous is my Bro btw.

[venomous]

yeah how do you loosen the timing belt a little ? mines pretty damn tight and i think its contributing to pulling the charger down.

[PaRaDoX]

u can move the pulley? (near the power steering pump, you'll notice it has 2 positions) try bolting it in the other position, may require moving/making a new charger bracket, i dunno thats just a geuss..

venomous, what did u get for $780

charger $??
piping $??
vacume lines $??

any adition costs involved, looking at throwing a 1ggze charger on mine, they go for round $250

[gemini]

Depends where you buy it from. If you can, try get the sc14 modified by CRS.They have grinded a bit off it im guessing so it all fits under the bonnet and inbetween the engine and the near the strut tower. We bought from Ebay and that included the extra pully and 2 brackets for $550.

You can buy the charger from a toyota wreckers for about $200 - $400 but you will have to mod it to fit and also, you need to get the pully machined so it can fit the belt. You will also need to get the brackets from somewhere or make them your self.

Piping, It cost us $230 to get out piping made up. If you shop around, you could probably get it cheaper.

So far, we dont need any extra vacume lines.

As for any adition costs, the things you will need to buy so everything goes smoothly is,

Wire to extend the loom. We bought a roll off 100m from an electrical ware house for $36. Its better to get a shit load then not enough and have to go back and forward. Just compare it to the wires already on the loom and you should be ok.

A multimeter or some other device that can help you sort out the wiring loom.

A grinder so you can cut the shit out of your alternator bracket to get that extra pully on.

Go to the wreckers and get some spark plug leads. Get a few cyl 6 leads so then you can move your coil pack to where you want it to be.

u can move the pulley? (near the power steering pump, you'll notice it has 2 positions) try bolting it in the other position

We'll have a look at that thanks I hope its simple as that ey.

[PaRaDoX]

yeah i understand maching the rotor, just need 1 more grove in the belt,
why extend the wiring loom? which loom are you refering to? the coil pack loom?
as for piping i can get some steel 3" piping made for pretty cheap, as for the charger id prefer to mod it my self, no fun paying someone $300 to do it when you could have the fun and do it yourself =D

as far as i knew chargers didnt require wiring? like maybe for the boost gauge but not the unit its self as its belt driven not spool based, therefore the boost settings arnt controlled by a computer they're controlled by the pulley size which means a 3psi pulley can push more than 3psi depending on the rev workload, btw would it be worth getting a 6psi pulley insted of maching the currnet one??? could probbly make a 6psi pulley yourself lol so you dont have to pay the $700 to get a proper one lol,

anyway if i realised this operation was soo cheap i would have done this along time ago.. alot easier than turbo charging a vn thats for sure