genuine aero ????

[bitch]

hey alll

a mate of mine just bought a vn for $500 and he's gonna wreck it for the running gear but befor he does he wants to find out if its a genuine aero....

theres some things that make me say no but im not 100% sure
its got two sets of i.d. tags on the firewall one just infront of the driver and the other under the vin on the left hand side.. they both have the usual markings ie: paint code, build date, trim code ect..

berlina dash, standard non tacho cluster..... pretty much looks like an exec with a body kit.

so is there any way to tell if its geuine or not
any help would be good... id hate for him to wreck it and then find out its the real thing.

cheers

[AirStrike]

If its genuine it will have a HDT build tag. If you want to check ring HDT with the VIN and they can send you a spec sheet on it if its an orginal areo.
AirStrike

[bitch]

yeah thats what i thought but wasnt to sure... theres no hdt tags anywhere on the car

thanx man

[1991_Vn2nV]

Also the Aero's were modelled on the Berlina model, as were the HSV's i believe?
In which case there should be a tacho cluster...

I dont understand what you mean about there being a Berlina dash with a no tacho cluster?

What does the dash badge say? The one on the passenger side that states the model i.e. berlina, calais etc.?

N is there any HDT badging on the bodykit? Im pretty sure the genuine Aero's have HDT badging/indenting on the kit, so if not its probably not even a genuine aero kit...

[stocky]

Also the Aero's were modelled on the Berlina model, as were the HSV's i believe?
In which case there should be a tacho cluster...

I dont understand what you mean about there being a Berlina dash with a no tacho cluster?

What does the dash badge say? The one on the passenger side that states the model i.e. berlina, calais etc.?

N is there any HDT badging on the bodykit? Im pretty sure the genuine Aero's have HDT badging/indenting on the kit, so if not its probably not even a genuine aero kit...

i know that the group a's were originally berlinas, dont know about other hsvs though.
by berlina dash, they probably just mean level 1 dash

[AirStrike]

Also the Aero's were modelled on the Berlina model, as were the HSV's i believe?
In which case there should be a tacho cluster...

I dont understand what you mean about there being a Berlina dash with a no tacho cluster?

What does the dash badge say? The one on the passenger side that states the model i.e. berlina, calais etc.?

N is there any HDT badging on the bodykit? Im pretty sure the genuine Aero's have HDT badging/indenting on the kit, so if not its probably not even a genuine aero kit...

Nah an Aero could be optioned on any model exec thru to calais.
AirStrike

[bitch]

Also the Aero's were modelled on the Berlina model, as were the HSV's i believe?
In which case there should be a tacho cluster...

I dont understand what you mean about there being a Berlina dash with a no tacho cluster?

What does the dash badge say? The one on the passenger side that states the model i.e. berlina, calais etc.?

N is there any HDT badging on the bodykit? Im pretty sure the genuine Aero's have HDT badging/indenting on the kit, so if not its probably not even a genuine aero kit...

berlina badge on the passenger side of the dash with standard cluster it got a "by hdt" sticker on the right hand side of the bootlid and what looked like to be a hsv (couldnt really tell as it was to dark) badge on the aero rear garnish where the usual V6 3.6 badge is

[Doctor Sodways]

HSV of the era were based on the berlina, some on the calais. By the sounds of it, i dont think its a genuine, might be a genuine kit. Is it a V6 or V8?

[Wesleyrpg]

so is it safe to say the the "VR Clubsport" for sale in the For Sale section, which thought would of been based on the VR Berlina, isn't genuine? All VR berlinas came with Climate Control, and yet this one has the standard heater controls?

[1991_Vn2nV]

so is it safe to say the the "VR Clubsport" for sale in the For Sale section, which thought would of been based on the VR Berlina, isn't genuine? All VR berlinas came with Climate Control, and yet this one has the standard heater controls?

Ah not sure. Theres a HSV website that states what each model was actually based on....but i havent been able to find it again. I will have a look again though and see, but the one in the For Sale section definitely looks like a genuine clubby... I would say that perhaps the VR/VS range was based on the Exec?

[1991_Vn2nV]

Ahh I give up. I found out that they had a re-trimmed Berlina rear seat and re-trimmed SS front seats...but thats it.

It seems to be a bit of a mix and match though, but perhaps because the Senator was introduced, they kept the standard models based on an Exec with some extras added so that it didnt infringe on the luxury of the Senator.

[AirStrike]

Most HSV's are exec based. The VN and VP clubbies for example are exec based.
AirStrike

[YMY-88U]

i thought just the newer clubby r8s were based on berlinas??

[bitch]

HSV of the era were based on the berlina, some on the calais. By the sounds of it, i dont think its a genuine, might be a genuine kit. Is it a V6 or V8?

series 1 v6

[AirStrike]

i thought just the newer clubby r8s were based on berlinas??

Newer ones are. Even up to say the VT clubbies are exec based.
AirStrike

[1991_Vn2nV]

Well there were only 25 VN Aero's made from the series 1...and very few woulda been a 3.8Litre V6...so its a very very slim chance.
But theres still a very minor chance that it is a genuine.

Also apparently they all come with a leather wrapped HDT/Momo steering wheel and matching gear knob?

[bitch]

cheers for all ya input.... ummmm, i recon its safe for him to wreck it

thanx

[AirStrike]

Well there were only 25 VN Aero's made from the series 1...and very few woulda been a 3.8Litre V6...so its a very very slim chance.
But theres still a very minor chance that it is a genuine.

Also apparently they all come with a leather wrapped HDT/Momo steering wheel and matching gear knob?

Where did you get the build amount from? Because you can take a VN there now and still get it made into a Aero........
AirStrike

[greenfoam]

Yup, there's probably more real ones than fake ones since you can go get your car made into one anytime. I saw a dark blue one on ebay not long ago that for all the world looked real, as in one of the original ones, it was pretty old and dusty looking!, no one bid on it and you could have taken it away for 2 grand or less

[1991_Vn2nV]

Do a search on Yahoo for HDT VN Aero and you'll get the build numbers..there is more than one site.

Perhaps this was from brand new? The sites also state 167kw in V6 form...would this be for real? I find that slightly hard to believe depending on what was done?

[mouce]

It wouldn't have been too hard to get 167kw out of the V6. Keep in mind that that's at the flywheel. RWKW would be down at around 120-130rwkw. So that's not unheard of.

[minux]

I thought there was 50 REAL Aero's made in VN, 2 colors, black and white, all 5 litres. Interiors were awesome, had climate etc. I could be wrong, but i just remember someone who did have one from new...it had badged dash, badged instrument cluster, badged seating.

[greenfoam]

HDT have allways messured their power output without any accessories, or complete exhaust on the engine, old school style to make the numbers look impressive, it's really just stock with a HSV 3800 chip in it, 130kw or something

[1991_Vn2nV]

HDT have allways messured their power output without any accessories, or complete exhaust on the engine, old school style to make the numbers look impressive, it's really just stock with a HSV 3800 chip in it, 130kw or something

SV3800 was 132kw, so same power rating? Did they V6 version come with the big bore 2.5 inch exhaust as well? Or was that just 5.L versions?