Cutting springs is ok

[govngo]

Hey guys im new to this site and was just reading some treads about cutting springs and a lot of you are against it. i dont see why? I have mine cut and i know heaps of people who have them cut. My old man has been cutting his springs since he was a young fellow. and have never ever had any probs. It doesnt make your car handle any better but its no worse then stock handling. You would have to be very very unlucky for something to happen. The only way i can see cut springs being a problem is if you get air off a jump or something and your springs fall out. But who realy does this? And yes i know its illegal but i see many of you have ultra lows on your cars. thats also illegal. Mate just got defected the other day for having ultras. I am saving for superlows but for now i think my cut springs are just fine.

[coolvxss]

Yeah ive got mine cut and a lot of mates do aswell and have had no probs at all but you will find a lot of people are against it. But still im getting super lows soon so my car handles better. at the moment it handles just the same as stock with my cut springs.

[anton1o]

Im against it for the reason of safety and handling.. Sure if you want your car to sit on the ground.. And dont really go thru the twistys at excess speeds then its fine..

But for some of us who value the use a Lowered spring.. Chopping isnt the way to go..

For 300$ you can have Safety, Piece of mind and a way better ride, Thats how i think of it.. Some will say 'Oh it will never **** up' but id rather spend 300$ then my life or my car.

[sik sv]

Not being rude but you obviously can't or don't or just think you can drive hard. Cutting springs esspecially in commodores makes the already woefull understeer problems even worst, the steering is nowhere near as precise even in every day applications, it might still dig in fine around a sweeping bend, but lets see you try charging hard through a right angle corner, you'll go dead straight and smack your front end squarly into the gutter. But at least the car will look low when its on the towie

[90VN55]

For 300$ you can have Safety, Piece of mind and a way better ride, Thats how i think of it.. Some will say 'Oh it will never **** up' but id rather spend 300$ then my life or my car.

agreed
i would rather proper springs
cause there is the posibility that it might fall out and who will be left to clean up the mess if you get killed.
if u want to lower it that bad then go ahead but its your own fault if they fall out

disclaimer:i claim no responsibility if u do go ahead and do it

[govngo]

Mate have you drove a car with cut springs. I dono bout other people cars but mine doesnt handle and worse the stock. i didnt notice any difference wot so ever. if anythin it handles better. And im always driving to the coast on a windy twisty roads going over 100 and no probs at all. but thats just my experiance anyway. Detrax, $300? Where? If it was that cheap i would have mine done. That wouldnt include shortend shocks. You need them aswell or its just the same as what i got now. And how can springs fall out unless you get air off a jump? even if my car is fully jacked up i still have to force the springs out to get them out. I know many people with cut springs and i dont no any1 whos springs have fallen out.

[Jimboss]

For the sake of a couple of hundred bucks, it just isn't worth taking the risk.

Everything i have read suggests it is quite dangerous, and only negatively effects the overall suspension setup.

Another point to think about is that the stock springs are designed and engineered to be that height, and to cut them alters the physical limitations of the springs.

There are plenty of people on these forums who will advise you against cut springs, and most can provide very convincing arguements as to why they are so bad. The only arguement for the use of cut springs is that they don't cost you anything, but why put a price on your own safety, and other occupants of your car.

[253@7k]

The only way i can see cut springs being a problem is if you get air off a jump or something and your springs fall out. But who realy does this?

I live in the country (most of the time) and all roads around my place are 110km/h. At times I have been driving, some times a little over the 110 mark,

not because I am some hero it just get me there quicker when town is 25k away, and there have been times where I have gone over a lump in the road

and have lifted to a point where my wheels are almost off the ground. Scary yes, but it will happen to all cars at some piont in thier life. This is where I

forsee the problem with cut springs. If they do not sit right and become dislodged. Well I dont want to be there. What I am saying is that there is

great potential for serious problems and IMO I would not put my life and car on the line to save $300.

Steve.

[Jimboss]

Mate have you drove a car with cut springs. I dono bout other people cars but mine doesnt handle and worse the stock. i didnt notice any difference wot so ever. if anythin it handles better. And im always driving to the coast on a windy twisty roads going over 100 and no probs at all. but thats just my experiance anyway. Detrax, $300? Where? If it was that cheap i would have mine done. That wouldnt include shortend shocks. You need them aswell or its just the same as what i got now. And how can springs fall out unless you get air off a jump? even if my car is fully jacked up i still have to force the springs out to get them out. I know many people with cut springs and i dont no any1 whos springs have fallen out.

I got Brand new superlow Kings and Monroe GT Gas short shocks (rear only) for the low, low price of $270, it pays to shop around, and do it all yourself, it is quite easy, do not pay the ripoff prices for installation and wheel alignments that tyre/suspension places charge if you are that worried about saving a buck.

[sik sv]

The problem isn't so much cutting the spring it is that the strut is designed to operate at certain heights under a certain load so as i said if you are on a sweeping bend on a freeway no probs but around town you ditch in for a hard right weight transfers left struts bottom out all weight is on wheel then you have understeer, why do you think lowered springs are heavy duty, it is to take stress of the shock, jump in your car now and try and turn into your street at 50 or more bet it struggles. Second thought don't try it.

[daron]

i did it once many years ago and a spring fell out onto the rim and made a hell of a noise
i will never do it again
whats your car worth and your life (or others)
do it riight it will feel awesome
do it rong it will feel sore
ps. cops should pick on the silly ones who take shortcuts not ppl who spend the bux doing it right

[PaRaDoX]

the BIGGEST diffrence between cut springs and lower springs is the density of the springs OFTEN overlooked, the kings will compress much less than the cut springs, hence less bounce but they can fall out to if short shocks arnt used, %99 of people who cut their springs dont replace their rear shocks anyway

imagine you go over a bump at a high speed... cut springs will compact %100 due to the fact they were initially designed to be 1 or 2 coils longer, the springs wont just fall out, they will become dislodged which can be dangerous, especially if they get caught between the rim and rotor

and a full set of kingsprings are $180... i mean if your life / that little defective sticker really worth that?

sure ive seen rides with superlows cut 1 coil that are nice but stock springs just dont cut it for that low due to the density (you'll notice stock springs have ALOT of body roll aswell)

[Full Spectrum]

My car had pedders springs, Brother mate had them cut he removed about 2-3 coils and it ended up costing me about $500 for the RWC because of the damage it done he wasn't happy with the sitting about superlows height he wanted it ultra low x2.
I'd rather have stiffer springs lowered then standard springs cut handling is the best thing. I have seen lowered cars bottom out very hard with stiff springs when lowered about 60mm. Lower stock springs about the same and your unders might get the hit of a life time.

[CSL]

true i cant wait for the tax man, my exhaust and the road are going to get to know each other a little bit more

[1991_Vn2nV]

I cant believe its another one of these threads... Cutting springs gives me the f**king shits...

As paradox said, its $180 for a full set of King Springs...which will sit better, ride better, handle better, be much safer and they're not defectable.. For $180 thats alot of benefits... An idiot might opt for cut springs, but a car enthusiast would not.

[wagonb0y]

Im also against it,
i did have them for about 3 days an for just readiong you dont have to be smart to figure it out i didnt feel safe just the fact of what can happen,
also what about insurance if you crash it? ive seen this first hand in my mates VR wagon me an him crashed but nothing could be done because of the springs where chopped an where stuck in the car so if they came to check there go's he's insurnace,
not a smart thing really i dont have a job but i put my old springs back in an saved my hardest doing little jobs for family an friends untill i could afford it.

[90VN55]

just count the number of coils on each
each coil is designed to take so much wait if you cut it the other coils have to take more weight!!
SO PLEASE DONT DO IT:b:

[Full Spectrum]

I thought the kings might look thicker?.

Really getting springs cut is just cheap I'd rather sit at truck height till i get the springs i want to lower it.

[90VN55]

so did i!!
but they dont compress as much under load.
i thought they would cause there not thick!! oh well
oh yeah for those of you that are wondering the are superlow kings

[EvoVIIIJDM]

just buy springs dont be so povvo. Think about your life and the lives of others on the road. Cut springs man. Fully, fully sick.

[1991_Vn2nV]

Those King Springs in the pic are progressive/variable rate. They provide much better handling than linear rate springs...If you have the money spend the extra $10 or so a spring and get that style too

[Full Spectrum]

so did i!!
but they dont compress as much under load.
i thought they would cause there not thick!! oh well
oh yeah for those of you that are wondering the are superlow kings

There superlows Not a huge difference but as you said they just don't compress as much like stocks, like a lower centre of gravity in a car doesn't have the whale effect as much.
The stock one looks like a slinky

[90VN55]

they made a bit of a differance!!
the tyre is just under the gaurd on the back

[fu2]

cutting springs are a silly silly idea.

untill you can aford a set, just do as i do... drive around with your 4wd ride hight and look at it this way, you can go over speed humps quicker

[stocky]

Mate have you drove a car with cut springs. I dono bout other people cars but mine doesnt handle and worse the stock. i didnt notice any difference wot so ever.

Mate have you been to an english class?