i just thought i woould let everyone know wbout this crank for sale on ebay in the US. i don't know if it will fit, but if it does it is pretty cheap. by the time everyone see's this, the auction will be ended but fair chance they will relist it..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT
i imagine it would fit in the buick engine for the vn-vr's...after some clearancing is done on the block to make room for the extra leverage of the crank...its only one piece of the puzzle so to speak though, there's alot of other gear you need to stroke an engine, its not as easy as replacing a stock crank with a stroker version.
so it would probably be pain in the ass to try and find each part on its own instead of in a kit.
and once you convert that $1000us ot aussie dollars and get it sent over, you might as well buy the kit from come, i heard theyre doing one for the vn s2 to vr for around 2-3g or something.
Theres a stroker kit on Australian eBay for buicks, comes with a stroker crank, rods and pistons for like $2200.
Also have a turbo kit with H beam rods and nice pistons for $1000ish more.
That crank looks alot tuffer though, wonder if its a billet steel item.
Exactly man. "enterprise cryponite crank shaft it is billet part the best you can buy"Originally Posted by aokman
There is a big difference when it comes to Billet cranks. Billet cranks built in the US by Intense Racing for the Ecotec style engines are guaranteed to handle 1500HP.
Definately worth the money then, the COME ones are just use standard materials.
YepsOriginally Posted by aokman
Its hard to tell if it will suit a VN as most of them are for their equivalent of our ecotecs
being a buick grand national 1987 id say it is a series 1 as i think the ecotecs are 2 years or so later..
lol i did not look at the title....just the text....Originally Posted by aokman
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lol dont worry its confusing as hell, then you have to find out if their series 1 is a match for our series 1 or series 2 motor as one had rope seals while the other had a different seal. Pritty sure its for a series 2 of our buicks though![]()
that one i posted up. i thought it may fit our series 1 motor as it has a 6 bolt flywheel. people would most likely have seen this. but for those who haven't. this isn't too bad..
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/4-2-litre-str...QQcmdZViewItem
yeh, been keeping an eye on his listings, but he only listde the individual crank seperately in the last few hours or so.
still, very cheap crank, even the whole kit is cheap.
come finally have a bit of info on their site on the vn-vr one now.
"New! Announcing the off the shelf availability of our latest product line. We now have 4.2 litre Stroker kits and engine packages for earlier V6 Holden Commodore engines. Covering all Series 11 VN engines, VP and VR. In fact any of these models with "8" bolt flywheel flanges are covered by our awesome stroker kits. Our normally aspirated kits are $2530.00 fully balanced including our nodular 3.7" stroker crank, 4340 steel "I" beam custom conrods and cast hyperuetectic pistons. As with our popular Ecotec kits we also have custom boost kits to suit blower/turbo applications for these earlier engines including custom Wiseco forged pistons and 4340 steel "H" beam rods designed for boost levels to at least 20psi."
*drools* Sounds much better than the Bradey CrankOriginally Posted by hakhawk
i emailed the bloke and he said it could be used on a series 1 motor if ya got an 8 bolt flywheel.. i don't know if that is right or not??
yeh, im even contemplating this myself. since i got a s2 motor awaiting rebuild, and it uses stock pistons(i will end up with acl race series kit) i just need to find a set of rods cheap or get his.
Wonder how much power increase these would produce, i bet the torque increase is impressive![]()
wait til sircruisealot gets his on the dyno, his is a ecotec, but should pove for a good idea on power and turque increase
The 4.3L Bradey Crank makes 177BHP at the wheels which is on a stock VR with just the crank kit, no other mods.
So the COME one would be better imo
fair chance the rods would be easy to find.. just need to find out if they are the same as anything else.
The H beam rods are definately a nice option but then you open a can of worms and have to get the billet bottom end caps and pistons to have the complete package![]()
i want one.. plan and simple. I WANT ONE!!!! i think i might have to contact COME and see whats the go with them.
For those that are after more information on the stroker crank from COME:
"Same prices as our Ecotec deals shown on our website.
Ecotec 4.2 litre Stroker short motors in stock. Blower/Turbo version sold outright $6500.00 delivered.
Ecotec 4.2 litre Stroker short motors in stock. Normally aspirated 220kw sold outright $4500.00 delivered.
Ecotec S.T-3 ported cylinder heads...flow over 460 bhp complete fully assembled with COME conical springs and chrome moly retainers, bronze valve guides, 3 angle valve job...$1995.00 the pair outright. ideal for either our normally aspirated or blower/turbo short blocks.
Crank kits also same price as Ecotec. See enclosed sheet.
Our S.T-3 4.2 Stroker engine (180-210kw) your choice of power level is $8800.00 fully built and dyno run in from a complete stock 3.8 engine you supply for us to build. This is a normally aspirated engine.
Don't compare our crank to the Bradey toy. Our kits are properly engineered logical designs fully tested over the last 18 months in pretty extreme engine dyno flogging.
Our crank has strong heavy precisely positioned counterweights and we make our own forged 4340 steel con rods in custom length so you can use OEM pistons with our kit. Stock pin height pistons in other words are designed to be used with our kits. The Ecotec piston in the early engine is ridiculous.
You will never get enough air flow through the V6 heads and manifold to justify 7000 rpm with a stroker. However if you made a special intake and maxed out the head ports 6500 plus may be feasible. In this situation order our best kit with Wiseco forged pistons and "H" beam rods. These parts are good for 7000 at least and/or with N2O or boost applications.
Incidentally, all our kits are in stock."
hmm, wonder what the go with "The Ecotec piston in the early engine is ridiculo" means, as i was thinking of doing that, as eco rods and pistons are shorter than vn ones.
Thats what Bradey Cranks use with their stroker. I think it has something to do with the gudgeons? But im not sure.Originally Posted by hakhawk
ahh, ok. wonder what lenght their rods are to use stock pistons, coz ill be using a acl rebuild kit, so if i could get rods cheap, i could have a stroker for cheap, getting jsut the crank and doing the clearancing.