Interceptor rims rubbing rear guard

[holster]

Hi,
I just put a set of 15"x6" interceptor rims on my VP. They have 225/60/15 on all the rims. The weird thing is that the passenger side rear guard rubs on the tyre on average sort of bumps on the road. All the rims are mark 6jjx15. But i noticed that the rim that rubs also has UTE stamped near where the hub sits.
I can fit my hand between the tyre and guard on the drivers side rear but not the passenger side rear. Would it be that the centre of the rim is sitting back a bit more causing the whole rim to sit out further? I thought all interceptor rims are the same.
Can any shed some light on this for me?
Thanks

[kasey375]

Might be a bent penard rod or what ever they r.
you would see the difference if one of them is off set, try put some pics up ay.

[90VN55]

have you lowered your car?

[pandaman]

have you lowered your car?

That's my question as well. If it's lowered (or maybe if the rear springs have sagged significantly) and you're still using the standard panhard rod the whole diff assembly is moved towards the passenger side. Kasey, a bent panhard rod would effectively shorten it yeah? Which would mean the assembly would be moved towards the drivers side. Besides which, I'm guessing you'd know if you'd bent it, it's a fair chunk of steel.

[vn88calais]

when u drop some commodores the wheels tend to bend in a lil...dont know if this is the problem ur having...but yer...hmmm....im not too sure i'll ask around and c wat i can find out for u mate

cheers, Todd

[Full Spectrum]

I seen even 225 15x6 can be fit as far back as VB's, I might be getting 225's 2morrow.

[holster]

Yes it is lowered. I took off a set of VN calais wheels and i never noticed them scrapping or being close to the guard. They where only 205/65/15.
It was already lowered before the interceptor rims .

[VNPOWER]

The 'ute' versions came out on the police cars and for utes. They were aparently much stronger and more solid that the standard ceptors.

[90VN55]

Yes it is lowered. I took off a set of VN calais wheels and i never noticed them scrapping or being close to the guard. They where only 205/65/15.
It was already lowered before the interceptor rims .

was it lowered before you bought it?
or did you lower it?

[90VN55]

get under the car and look for 1 of these

the 1 im holding is the stock 1 if its in there still thats your problem.
if its like the 1 in the car then its adjusted wrong or there is another problem with your car

[pandaman]

Yes it is lowered. I took off a set of VN calais wheels and i never noticed them scrapping or being close to the guard. They where only 205/65/15.
It was already lowered before the interceptor rims .

Hokay, well if it has been lowered without putting in an adjustable or shortened panhard rod the entire rear axle WILL be closer to the passenger side of the vehicle. The difference in width between the skinny 205's and the niiiiice 225's was probably enough to get some tire to guard rubbing action happening. I reccomend you have a chat to ya local suspension blokes about getting an adjustable panhard rod fitted and adjusted. Unless of course one is already fitted and the problem is something else.

The wheels were not different betweent the ute/sedan/wagon as far as I know, so the stamp on the wheel you mentioned in the first post shouldn't be a problem (I think). If you have a friend with 225's on 15's, do a quick swap and see what happens.

[pandaman]

FECK! Sorry mate, I stuffed up. If the car is lowered without an adjustable panhard rod the wheels should be sitting towards the drivers side of the car. Only been a month since I was last under the damn thing and I can't even remember which direction the panhard rod runs dammit. So yeah, let us know what kinda rod ya got in there and whether there's any obvious damage. Sounds like it might be something other than the usual dodgy lowering job suspect. :-)

[pandaman]

when u drop some commodores the wheels tend to bend in a lil...dont know if this is the problem ur having...but yer...hmmm....im not too sure i'll ask around and c wat i can find out for u mate

cheers, Todd

The wheels bending in when lowered, (change of camber) is only a problem on commo's with IRS i think.

[mouce]

Just something to keep in mind true interceptors were 15x7", the factory steel holden rims are 15x6".

I have heard that the ute wheels are 15x7 to hold the extra load. So is it possible that you've got one wide rim and three normals?

[jack.mc]

Just something to keep in mind true interceptors were 15x7", the factory steel holden rims are 15x6".

I have heard that the ute wheels are 15x7 to hold the extra load. So is it possible that you've got one wide rim and three normals?

Sounds like my mates car when he bought it - mix of 14s/15s, with varying tyre pressures to get it to sit flat! He got it for a song, soon changed the wheels

[mouce]

LOL. Now THAT sounds like a dodgy deal. Mixing stuff up like that is NEVER a good thing. And then trying to hide it using dodgy tyre pressures...damn...

[holster]

Thanks for all the help im getting. I forgot to mention in my first post that it only rubs when i do a left hand turn. I measured the distance between guard and tyre on the drivers side which is a not stamped UTE and got like 40mm distance from tyre and outer guard edge. On the passenger side which is rubbing it is about 34mm from tyre and outer guard edge. I ended up getting another interceptor rim stamped UTE as well put that on the drivers side and now i get equal distance between outer edge of the guard and tyre on both sides of the car. So it looks like the UTE rims are slightly wider even tho they are stamped 15x6.
It seems like the whole body of the car shifts to right when i do a left hand turn.
Does that make sense to anyone?
Thanks

[mouce]

Check your suspension bushes. If the body is moving heaps, chances are you've got stuffed bushes somewhere. Is there any 'clunking'?

[Full Spectrum]

OMG that reminds me the same day i was getting my tin can fitted to the rear of my exhaust the VP Exec next to myn on the hoist didn't even have a Panhard Rod

[phat_com]

The 'ute' versions came out on the police cars and for utes. They were aparently much stronger and more solid that the standard ceptors.

and they look to be wider on cop cars

[phat_com]

sorry i didn;t read all the posts before i posted
my bad

[Full Spectrum]

I was thinking about this today as i just got 225's done on my rear. No rubbing at all.

[Cheap6]

Stamped near the tyre valve will be the rim offset; 43P, 37P (ute) or 26P (VQ/VP IRS) for steel rims. Ute rims are 37P for VN/VG. That means that the centreline of the rim will be further out from the hub/mounting face.

Difference in offset between standard and VN/VG ute: 43-37=6mm
Difference between measured values, with odd rims: 40-34=6mm (strange that)

Holster, try putting the ute rims on the front to increase the front track which will reduce understeer.

Other rim stuff:

Ute and police rims also have a different centre to secure the plastic centre caps.

VT- rims are marked HS, high strength, and are thicker to cpe with the greater weight of VT-.