vl vers vn not quiet sure

[vks]

hey all , just a quick question my mate has got a vl executive 3 litre with a full sports exhaust and a 5 speed manual, just wonderin if my standard vn series 1 auto would be up 2 the task of winnen a drag against it. any comments would be much appreciated

[holden007]

Well I thick the VN will beat it, really depends on the condition of both cars.

[vks]

the vn is goin strong ,hasnt mist a beat but the vl has had to have the box changed for the 4th time so yeah not sure if that tells u anything,

[VNV6VENGEANCE]

Your vn will win. he'll get you off the line because of the 3:45 ratio gears and as its a manny but you'll stomp him in power

[vks]

thanks for the help guys, i really appreciate it, cheers

Long Live The Commy

[lazza44]

does an exec vl manual have 3:45 gears?

[VNV6VENGEANCE]

i think all vl's got 3:45's

[1991_Vn2nV]

Your vn will win. he'll get you off the line because of the 3:45 ratio gears and as its a manny but you'll stomp him in power

You obviously aint been in many VL's

You'll rape his VL mate. Off line too. The VL's dont get movin til they hit 30km/h on the speedo... With the exhaust on his VL it will be much closer top end but you will still pull away from him even then...

The VL's dont have enough torque to get movin off line. The VN has more torque at just 1200rpm than the VL does at peak!

All VL 6's had the 3.45 gear ratio. V8's had the 3.08 ratio which our VN's have.

[VNPOWER]

if its an Non turbo VL, you wont have any problems! Though, i havent been in a manual VL, but i wouldnt think there would be much difference to the auto.

[VN Commy]

I've been in my mates 3L manual VL and I have to say that it did pull quite hard. It was hard to tell though because cars feel faster when I'm not the driver. I thought he might keep up with the VN but wouldn't have a hope of beating it.

[cohn]

It would be interesting race, depends on how your friend drives, clutch and gearshift wise. the vl doesnt have as much touqe but has more power. and manuals have less power loss through the driveline then an auto has.

[Full Spectrum]

It's easy, If the VL ain't blowing PSI it's got no chance stock on stock
Should be a couple of car lengths comfortability.

[VNV6VENGEANCE]

[QUOTE=1991_Vn2nV]You obviously aint been in many VL's

You'll rape his VL mate. Off line too. The VL's dont get movin til they hit 30km/h on the speedo... With the exhaust on his VL it will be much closer top end but you will still pull away from him even then...

QUOTE]

i bin in plenty of vl's mate. He's talkin manual vs auto so if his mates knows how to drive he will most probably get the jump then get thrashed. most 150-200k auto gearboxes r sludgeboxes

[Nobody Actually]

if he can DRIVE, you may be in for quite the close call

[greenfoam]

hey all , just a quick question my mate has got a vl executive 3 litre with a full sports exhaust and a 5 speed manual, just wonderin if my standard vn series 1 auto would be up 2 the task of winnen a drag against it. any comments would be much appreciated

A manual VL with an exhaust will run 16.5 on the 1/4 mile if your VN can't do better than that it's time to throw it in the tip

[1991_Vn2nV]

[QUOTE=VNV6VENGEANCE]

You obviously aint been in many VL's

You'll rape his VL mate. Off line too. The VL's dont get movin til they hit 30km/h on the speedo... With the exhaust on his VL it will be much closer top end but you will still pull away from him even then...

QUOTE]

i bin in plenty of vl's mate. He's talkin manual vs auto so if his mates knows how to drive he will most probably get the jump then get thrashed. most 150-200k auto gearboxes r sludgeboxes

Manual VL ran 0-100 in 9.6 seconds with a very good driver from factory... VN Auto did 8.1 seconds 0-100

...Big difference

[1991_Vn2nV]

It would be interesting race, depends on how your friend drives, clutch and gearshift wise. the vl doesnt have as much touqe but has more power. and manuals have less power loss through the driveline then an auto has.

wtf you mean has more power? A VN has more power than a VL V8, let alone a VL 6..

[GLD-086]

The VL will rape the barge ass VN moite...














Nah seriously, I think the VN would win up top, being more powerful and having alot more torque.

If it was a Turbz. No chance in hell.

Manual VL ran 0-100 in 9.6 seconds with a very good driver from factory... VN Auto did 8.1 seconds 0-100

...Big difference

Was that with or without, the boat anchor attached to the VN?



Just kidding.

[1991_Vn2nV]

lol Hey.... I can drive to Tasmania... can you?

[VRFURY]

hey guys, when u put my vl up against lukes vn wag (man)
i thrash his every time, only cause he cant drive but when im driving the vn it just beats my vl.
But this VN is running really shit atm.

JUst thought id bring a bit of vl owners opinion into it haha

[vks]

thanks guys ur all legends, after readin all the replies i think my vn will be more than up 2 the task , thanks guys much appreciated
cheers vks

[holden007]

Had a go with a VL manual the other day, killed it and mines a VR. Even the turbos are crap, unless they have been worked on.

[GLD-086]

if its an Non turbo VL, you wont have any problems! Though, i havent been in a manual VL, but i wouldnt think there would be much difference to the auto.

I've driven both and the Manual VLs eat Auto VLs alive.

From factory, the Autos ran about a 17.5 and the Manuals about a 16.6.

That's not quite 1 second. Pretty large gap for the same car, with the same power, but different trans, if you ask me.

Anyway the VL might not be able to beat the VN in stock form, but I can guarentee stock for stock a VL Manual, maybe even a Auto will stomp any 6 Cylinder Commodore, made before the VL.

[VNV6VENGEANCE]

[QUOTE=1991_Vn2nV]

Manual VL ran 0-100 in 9.6 seconds with a very good driver from factory... VN Auto did 8.1 seconds 0-100

...Big difference

Oi mate **** ya stats. I don't give a shit bout what the car did when it rolled off the showroom floor. We're talkin bout two worn in cars that would have done a fair few k's between them. It all depends on the condition of both cars. The manual gearbox is an advantage if his mate can use it. Holdens statistics are very vague. Saw an article in wheels mag where holden were gettin given shit for estimating many statistics they publish... Put it this way there is always going to be a possibility that a vl can beat a vn. no matter what the statistics say. Though every VL driver that has given me a go including a few turbs (not worked) has gotten romped...

[greenfoam]

I've driven both and the Manual VLs eat Auto VLs alive.

From factory, the Autos ran about a 17.5 and the Manuals about a 16.6.

That's not quite 1 second. Pretty large gap for the same car, with the same power, but different trans, if you ask me.

Anyway the VL might not be able to beat the VN in stock form, but I can guarentee stock for stock a VL Manual, maybe even a Auto will stomp any 6 Cylinder Commodore, made before the VL.

It would be close against a VK efi converted to manual!, or auto vs auto very very close. But really you are right the older COmmodores are painfully slow, I gteched my VH 202 auto sle (barge boat) to 60 mph and it took 13.5 funny enough thats about what they got from the factory, my VN V6 could get to 60mph and stop again quicker than that. Still the VL is no match in anyway for a VN v6 unless its a turbo, a stock turbo will beat a V6 VN by about .3 seconds over the 1/4 mile. VN's will run an 1/8th mile in about 10.2 and the VL turbo is about 10 flat