Are VR front springs the same as vp's

[calais_cruzin]

Hey All

Just a quick question....

Are VR Front Springs the same as VP fronts???

Im sure they are the same but just wanna see if anyone else can confirm this for us.....

Cheers for any help....

[1991_Vn2nV]

No they are not the same. The rear is the same provided they are not IRS, but the front is different.

VR's also require shortened front shockers when fitted with lowered springs for extended bump travel, where as VN/VP's do not.

[calais_cruzin]

R u sure coz i fort they tok the same shock n springs coz it the same setup...
dont they take the same rotor aswell.....

I fort the only difference was the strut top bearing plate....

[Emackulation]

VR's also require shortened front shockers when fitted with lowered springs for extended bump travel, where as VN/VP's do not.

Suckers....Now they wish they bought a VN instead of a VR.

[Full Spectrum]

Vn2Nv is right they are different up front. Because when i was having mine done they worked there nads off to do them, They had a VT VS in also and told me the rear is easy but the front is hard, With VR's onwards it's as easy to remove the front springs as it is the back. Wheres VP back remove the strut the works.
I belive the shock isnt in the middle of the springs vr on.

[calais_cruzin]

Yeah just rang a suspention place they are different but he wasnt sure how much difference there was......He finks they may be a bit higher.....

[vt1538]

The VR/VS shock is part of the strut where the VN/VP take a cartridge. You still need to take the strut out to replace the springs.

[defa]

i bougth some vr front springs from a swap meat and my mate put them in a VL. the only difference i could see was the top of the spring was ground flat. i couldn't see any other difference. he is having no problems at all with the car. VL springs will go in a vn and vice versa so i can't see any problem there.
i am not saying that they are not different but i know it can be done with no problems

[1991_Vn2nV]

i bougth some vr front springs from a swap meat and my mate put them in a VL. the only difference i could see was the top of the spring was ground flat. i couldn't see any other difference. he is having no problems at all with the car. VL springs will go in a vn and vice versa so i can't see any problem there.
i am not saying that they are not different but i know it can be done with no problems

It CAN be done, but it shouldnt be. Hell you can put slinky's in there if you want.

And yes im sure im right.. I always am lol

[defa]

i see your point, but, i can't see what the problem is with doing it. as they are the same size. they don't rattle at all. the car handle's really good. why shouldn't it be done.. that i would like to know so i could tell my mate, cos he is selling the car soon i think..

[1991_Vn2nV]

Well the fact the top of the springs is ground flat may make an issue.

Jack the car up and try twisting the springs. If they move AT ALL side to side or anything then thats very dangerous. If the car was to get airborn or something, the springs may not lock back in, basically the same situation as having cut springs.

Either way, there are obviously good reasons for them not meant to be being fitted to VP commodores.

[calais_cruzin]

Cheers everyone for ya help.

[greenfoam]

The VR/VS shock is part of the strut where the VN/VP take a cartridge. You still need to take the strut out to replace the springs.

The factory VN/P shockers are part of the strut too, only the replacement gas shockers are a cartridge that slides in where the oil shockers plunger thing used to go. I have the opinion that the rebuildable original ones are better than the replacement cartrige but maybe that's just me