Kmac strut mounts

[Calais3800]

Does anyone know how these work or there insatlation instructions.
i cant lower my car until i know how to intasll them and adjust them properly. can anyone help plz?

[calais_cruzin]

To get ur camber set right u would have to go get a wheel align....
Just wack em on n take it to a tyre place as u will need it to be aligned after u drop it anyways....
To install em u just take off the nuts on the strut plate then bolt the camber brace ova the top, im not sure as ive neva put em on but i did have em on me VN.....Then the tyre place will twist em till they get teh right camber angle..
U would probly be best to let em do it and would take less time n i dont think they would wack u much for it to be done....

[calais_cruzin]

3 threads on this?????

[WaynoVN]

Goggle is the most powerful tool EVER !

Oh and you should delete the other 2 threads mate.

[Calais3800]

Thankyou Calais_Cruzin, i waznt sure if u needed to remove the original strut mounts. So they go ova the top huh? kool will give it a go.

yes, how did i get 3 threads? i only posted 1!? i tried goggle and got zippo. i dont know why ppl bother saying "go try goggle". its a joke.

p.s will see if i can remove this thred from my end. obviouly a glitch.....

[Calais3800]

spoke to soon.lol. seems it has fixed it self. lol.

[WaynoVN]

Dude, I just goggled "KMAC", search Australia only and got Kmacs website, went there and they have the installation instructions for ALL their products, that's were I got the PDF from..or did you not see that ??

Goggle is brilliant, if you know how to use it.

And don't bother thanking me..your on your own next time.

[Calais3800]

Goggle is the most powerful tool EVER !

Oh and you should delete the other 2 threads mate.

Wayno, u did not mention anything about providing K-mac PDF installation. Plz take note before u get stroppy wiff pll.

p.s i've been to the K-mac site it waz crap! id rather ask someone here and get the short answer.....ok? dude...............

Thankyou for the file . but it does not contain the install information, just has diagrams of how they work. doesnt tell me if they go in over/under the bearing assembely or replace it all togther??? or or wat torque setting they require.

[calais_cruzin]

What ones did u get coz there are onse that replace the hole bearing plate and there are others that is just a plate that bolts onto the existing bearing plate.....
Id say u got the univerals n they just go on top....

[Calais3800]

ok, ive had a good look at em and theve got 3 bolts on the "bottom plate" just like the original bearing does. and a top plate that bolts down on top off that. wiff all the K-mac adujsment info on it. Hmmmm, if wat u say is true then there proberly complete replacments for the bearing assembly/plate.

IM lowering my calais tommrow. Will tell u how it went.

[1991_Vn2nV]

Can you use these with a strut brace?

[calais_cruzin]

im preety sure u can but u need to put the brace under the plate n get longer bolts for it, on me VN i only had about 3mm of thread stickin out the top so u would need longer bolts to fit the brace in there, but it would be do able

[1991_Vn2nV]

Oh ok cheers man. I'll look into it further

[calais_cruzin]

Im not sure if they will work on the univerals but if u go get the complete strut plate off them it will definatly fit as the adjustments are totally different to the universals...
U may not be able to fit them under the plate but there still is a bit of room there...
Go to k-mac and have a look at all the different types they got...

[Calais3800]

well today i started putting in the lowered king springs and eveything went in well. Except the tie rod end ball joint!!!! i had to belt the bolt down throught the strut for a 30 mins before it finally poped out/down. Who waz the dumbass retard at holden that desinged a suspension setup where u cant replace a simple F**king spring or shocker with out having to dismatle the entier strut and remove it from the car!? ANd dont start me on that dammed tie rod link! Wat a pathetic desin! u cant fit a racthet in there so i had to do em wiff a 14mm ring spaner going 1/4" turns at a time, takes F**king forver!!!

now that i got that out. When i lowered the car back down after completing the front left side. i stood back to enjony wat it would look like lowered. Something waz wrong! the gap in the gaurd looked the same! not lower at all?
i measrued the right side that waz still stock, then went to the side i just finished intsalling and it waz higher? How can a lowered spring raise the car higher than when it waz stock?? i put a lentgh of timber across the struts then a float gauge on top of that. front waz tilted towards the stock spring meaning that the (lowerd) new spring waz in fact sitting 2cm higher? wat the? there spose to be 30mm lower than stock!!

WTF iz going on here? i chekd the k-mak mounts and there slighly longer than stock mounts. Is this yet another ridiculous design flaw? This time on behalf of k-mac or could it be sometinh else????

I only seem to have 2 options......

1) Cut the springs down to suit
2) intsall them with out the k-mac's

Doz anyone have any other ideas?

King Springs Part code
KHRL-20 (rears)
SPHFS-09 (fronts) King Spring web site does not have this code????

i have cut many springs in the past and found them fine as long as u dont cut more than 1 coil off......

[1991_Vn2nV]

The fronts are not a King Spring spring.. Thats not one of their part numbers.


Dont even think about cutting the springs. Less than one coil or not, dont be a ******** and dont start this argument.

[Calais3800]

Can anyone PLZ PLZ tell me how a lowered spring wiff kmac top has lifted my car by 22mm, when kings spring lows are spose to reduce it by 30mm??? Its got me baffeld????

[Calais3800]

ok, nobody knows??? looks like im stuck in the "TWILIGHT ZONE" here.

[1991_Vn2nV]

Its because they are not King Springs... Not Commodore ones atleast.

Maybe if you get the right springs you will have more luck

[Calais3800]

yeah u might be right coz the front spring labels have worn away. but i sat them next to the stock springs after i took em out and the new ones r 1 inch lower. MY stocks were 360mm (unloaded) and the new ones are 315mm (FE2 height) but after i put im in the car waz 20mm higher? I compared the Kmacs the the stock mounts and there roughly the same. somthing is adding bout 50mm to the ride hight?? the gap under the gaurd waz 60mm before lowering it, shoulda dropped to roughly 30mm but it went up to 80mm, WTF???.

The only other thing is, i used the struts the lowered springs came on.they had gaurds at the botton that seem to enclose the disc rotors (front). My stocks ones dont have this? does anyony know wat model commy these came off coz VN's dont seem to have this. Maybe there VP or VR struts, maybe they r longer? can anyone help?? plz??....

[vt1538]

While the springs are shorter unloaded, when the weight of the car tries to compress them the shorter springs being stiffer will compress less.
When you fit the shorter springs to the strut & do up the the top nut does it compress the spring? or is the spring loose until you drop the cars weight on it?

[Calais3800]

The lowered (315mm) springs sit in tight after doing up the strut mount top nut. there waz no slack in the struts after installing, i locktited and toruqed up all the bolts to manual specs. Everying done by "the book".

All i can figure iz dat de KMACS or the STRUTS themselvs r adding/improving ride height in some weird-ass TWILIGHT ZONE way......do do do do, do do do do. " As the poor unsuspecting Calais owner began intalling an inocent lowering kitt to his car, little did he know he waz about to cross into the........twilight zone, do do do do, do do do do...(mytserious echo....) "

[SlowVac]

Can anyone PLZ PLZ tell me how a lowered spring wiff kmac top has lifted my car by 22mm, when kings spring lows are spose to reduce it by 30mm??? Its got me baffeld????

The main reason is that the wheel geomertry has been altered to minimise camber which minimise tyre scrubbing on the inner side hence the increase of height.
Also a strut brace does fit with the bearing plates.

Cheers

[VL Berlina 5speed]

after market strut tops will raise your car by about 25mm (notherthane 25mm other brands im not sure), so when lowering ur car and putting in aftermarket strut tops go the next lowering level down on the front

[Calais3800]

ok, i thought i waz sumptin like dat. Dam, the KMAC web site say nothing off this. Thankyou VL BERLINA, at least i feel at rest with it now that its been confirmed. Ive already cut the (front) springs down to match the 25mm increase. they look and ride 10x better than stock. Not even the slightest possibilty of the springs falling out of place..............nice