vn commodore VS subary liberty

[holdnlvr]

as above im curious as what will win, the subary is a 2000 liberty rx 2.5l. both cars are auto and both in good nik.

[xcop5l]

the vn
those subies are sh1t. unles its got the boxter motor (6 cyl)

[253@7k]

Vn should win if the lib is n/a.

And yes xcop, it does have a boxer motor, all subarus do. A boxer moter is a subaru horizontaly opposed 4 or 6 cyl engine.

[holdnlvr]

yeh slundy is correct, thats the only thing that had me worried. whats the best way to race him for a guaranty win, off the line or while driving???

[veclubby]

as long as u do get any wheel spin u should be rite, the subi's awd so it's get the benifit there. dont think their that quick but unless turboed, mates got a forester and thats an absolute slug. its got ok pickup to about 60 after that it sucks, and booting it at 80 its got no pickup.

should be an easy win, subi mite get the jump off the line but u should catch him in first high up in rpm and into second.

cheers
ryan

[253@7k]

N e where. Youll get a harder launch and youll also accelerate faster and to higher speeds.

[1991_Vn2nV]

I gave one a drag in the wet, it got me offline cause I sat there spinning the wheels, but I caught it pretty damn quick. They are fair slow.

[Pretender]

Standing start and you should win easily, rolling start could be surprising depending on the initial speed but you should still win if you start at a low speed.
N/A Libertys don't feel very quick but their actual times tell a different story.
Don't forget the old 2.0litre manual, at 9.2 seconds was slightly quicker than the N/A VL manual six and the auto was well over a second quicker than the VL auto. I believe the 2.5 is only about the same as the old 2.0litre as the car is now heavier. Both being auto and stock, you should have over a second on the Subaru if your car is running right.

Edit: 2.2litre not 2.0litre, my mistake.

[Cheap6]

I'll second those comments. I wish I could give some more numbers but I can only recall that an earlier model Subaru Liberty 2.5 (man) was one car included in a Wheels feature on factory 'Q' cars (sleepers). (Others included VS S/C Calais and Nissan Bluebird 2.4.) I guess that there is one way to find out......

[AlpineRaven]

Yes and no... Subarus have good low range torque and power where abouts VN's 3.8s has better higher range of power.
My previous car was 2.2 Litre 1995 Liberty AWD (all wheel drive) and it does start off very quick then next car to me will beat me but can catch up. If its 2.5 litre will go quick but not as much as stock vn. If you had turbo, would beat VN.
These 2.5 litres are NA same with 2.2. If its EJ20 (2.0 litre) NA is sluggush but if its turboed then yeah will beat it easily.
Cheers
AP

[1991_Vn2nV]

Yes and no... Subarus have good low range torque and power where abouts VN's 3.8s has better higher range of power.
My previous car was 2.2 Litre 1995 Liberty AWD (all wheel drive) and it does start off very quick then next car to me will beat me but can catch up. If its 2.5 litre will go quick but not as much as stock vn. If you had turbo, would beat VN.
These 2.5 litres are NA same with 2.2. If its EJ20 (2.0 litre) NA is sluggush but if its turboed then yeah will beat it easily.
Cheers
AP

VN's have awesome low down torque and poor top end mate.

92% of max torque is available from just 1200rpm, which I assure you is better than the Liberty....

After 4000rpm, the torque of the VN S1 disappears very very rapidly...