vn s1 auto vs vn s2 5 speed

[kasey375]

Hi, I have a vn s2 with a 5 speed and my mate has a vn s1 auto.
from a stand still to 100km with one should get there first?

[1991_Vn2nV]

As everyone will undoubtedly say... It depends how good you are at shifting, who gets the best take-off and which car is in better condition.

But all that aside... I would stick with the auto even though the S2 should be quicker... Auto beats manual in my books.

[coolvxss]

Well i have to say a auto doesnt stand a chance against a manual if you take off right and shift right. I kill my mums auto vn with my 5sp vn but as soon as i stuff up a take off its all over for me. All depends on the driver of the manual.

[Hillerus]

I may be wrong, but perhaps the easiest way to tell might be to have a race? Just a wild thought I had..........

[immortality]

the 5spd should take it every time, but like mentioned before, it all depends on the driver. i got beat by my mates suzuki escuda once. i sat there and smoked it while he was gone, caught him no probs once i got traction in second gear. it's easy if your to eager to give to many revs on take off. best option is to just line em up and go for it

[Shortstuff]

I would say manual. Doesn't the auto box mean a lot more power loss through the drive train when compared to a manual?

[coolvxss]

yeah my mums auto vn feels like the biggest sludge box after driving my manual.

[Hillerus]

Just race the damn thing!

[kasey375]

Yeah ok will give it ago and tell ya all how it goes, went out the road today for a few take off's to see how me car was going and the right side top control arm bolt fell off. put a new one in so is all ready for a run.

[1991_Vn2nV]

I would say manual. Doesn't the auto box mean a lot more power loss through the drive train when compared to a manual?

Its not that bigger deal. And no matter HOW good a driver you are, you can never match an auto when changing/shifting gears on a 0-100 run.

[dmitch]

work the auto.. then its auto all the way..

[Shortstuff]

Just looking through the technical specs on a few manufacturer's websites and they seem to claim considerably lower 0-100kmh times for the manal compared to the auto.

For example Ford claim 0-100 in 9.8 seconds for the 2 litre Duratec Mondeo Sedan in Manual form, but 11.5 seconds in auto. And Vauxhall claim the manual Vectra 3 litre TDCI will reach 100kph 0.4 seconds quicker than the auto.

I'm sticking to the manual taking it!

[coolvxss]

Well with manual it may be hard getting a good 0-100 time but with practice im sure you could beat auto. but over 1/4 mile im pretty sure manual would win. With the 0-100 time you only realy have to change gear once into second so its not much of a big deal to get one gear change right.

[azkwazere]

Its not that bigger deal. And no matter HOW good a driver you are, you can never match an auto when changing/shifting gears on a 0-100 run.

sure it is... like inexcess of 15rwkw diff..... i can tell you, from experience, manuals are faster, spesh with auto diff ratios.... ive driven my car with an auto in it, and a manual in it... manual wins. Period. In this case.... technically, if driven by non mistake making robots, manual wins. however.... most manual drivers are crap and so the SII driver will loose... it depends on the driver.

On a side note also.... i can shift faster than my auto ever could now... stick a shift kit in and yes itll change faster but standard autos.... VN autos... are shit house.

[dmitch]

sure it is... like inexcess of 15rwkw diff..... i can tell you, from experience, manuals are faster, spesh with auto diff ratios.... ive driven my car with an auto in it, and a manual in it... manual wins. Period. In this case.... technically, if driven by non mistake making robots, manual wins. however.... most manual drivers are crap and so the SII driver will loose... it depends on the driver.

On a side note also.... i can shift faster than my auto ever could now... stick a shift kit in and yes itll change faster but standard autos.... VN autos... are shit house.

theres no difference in the diff ratios they use 3.08

[greenfoam]

You can shift waaaaaay faster than a stock auto in a manual, maybe not in a really good Auto, but a stock one no problem. Plus you have an extra 5% power plus you can launch at any power level you want. Stock v Stock a manual with a good driver will win anytime.

All the fast stock and stockish VN 5 liter times are with manual cars, all in the very low 14's. The best autos are around the mid 14's or over

[azkwazere]

theres no difference in the diff ratios they use 3.08

yeah, your right.... my bad..... was thinking somehting else. However, im still for manuals being faster.

aZk.

[coolvxss]

Yeah i can change gears in my manual pretty quick. When i 1st got my VN i was a bit slow and got beat a bit but now i can change gears in split second.