removing aircon

[PaRaDoX]

hey guys, starting my project tommorrow,

spoke to my mate today, his dad just got a gasless migwelder, and is willing to construct a turbo manifold for me for DIRT cheap, i just need parts

now ive put many many many hours in the designs for this manifold,
its going to meet in the center so each side of the engine piping is the same length, it will then run to the turbo which will be mounted where the air box was

the aircon is right where the passengerside header needs to run, which means it has to go (its out of gas anyway)

what would i need to plug up/remove in the aircon??? , i figure the pulley and the compressor tank?? anything else???

[VNV6VENGEANCE]

Don't f#ck around with getting rid of shit like a/c, there are turbo manifolds made that don't need a/c removal. You would be better off redesigining the turbo mainfolds then your engines original components. I've been in a twin turbo vn that has twice the pipes and he had a/c.

[defa]

are you making log type manifolds. if you can wait a few days i could sit my manifolds on my motor of you and take some pics. so ya can see what the go is. ones manifold sits high to miss the aircon and the other sits low to miss the power steering pump... if ya want me to take some photo's let me know..

[PaRaDoX]

yeah i know, ive looked into these designs, i dont want aircon, in the 2 years ive had the car ive used it once to test it,ive already got a design for keeping hte aircon and it will be a genuine pain in the ass

i wasnt asking opinions, i was asking is there anything else i need to disconnect

[HoZy]

You dong know pain in the ass until you've modified a vn aircon for an ecotec an it sits 10mm from the chassis! and the right extractor sits on the chassis!

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HARD IS BOY! lol

haha

[ashzv6]

haha,
i removed my aircon.
if you remove your aircon you must have rocks in ya head!!!
im speaking from experience.

but i removed the little tank near the firewall, the lines going to and from it.
i think i needed to se a hack saw on the metal lines and a huge shifter.

also theres like a miny radiator thing in front of the radiator. it has i think 1 or 2??? lines. i think there metal but cant quite remember. i used a hacksaw on these also because they run along the chassis rail thing in the engine bay and twist around the radiator, so unless you remove the front bar these are a genuine pain in the ass to remove.

and then the compressor thing itself is a prick. the top bolts are easyily undone using a open ender but the bottom ones have roughly 10mm gap between the inner gaurd/chassis rail, which make it very hard to undo.

and after your finished you are rewarded with 2 ugly ass metal lines coming out the firewall going no where and looks just plain stupid.

so all in all i would not remove it if i where you, when you are sitting at the lights at a hot summer day, and your fan blows out heat, you start reaching opening up all the windows but it hardly makes a differnence,you'll wish you kept it, trust me i know.

[PaRaDoX]

aight thats what i wanted to know, how much of a pain in the ass it'd be

the VR headers are diffrent than the VN headers (end alot higher) i gotta rip it apart and fiddle too see what will/wont fit

[azkwazere]

if you dont want it then just start ripping out stuff till youve got the room you need. Dissconnect all power to the unit.. the pulley and remove anything that gets into your way and you'll be sweet... you dont have to remove EVERYTHING just the stuff that get in your way. That way you wont have holes that you cant cover up. AND people might think... WOW... custom AC where did he move the compressor! hahahahah

aZk.

[PaRaDoX]

lol yeah true i can just move the pulley the compressor actually dosnt need to go anywhere because its not in the way

[xcop5l]

if youre going to run an intercooler remove the condencer (the radiator thing infront of the radiator) it will help heaps with air flow.
just remove the compressor and the pipes that will get in the way, and leave every thing else.

question??? what drive belt are you going to use? the standard one will be too big/long

[defa]

you can get a belt for the few vn's that didn't have air con..

[xcop5l]

i thought they had a pully in its place

[ashzv6]

nah they just use a shorter belt, no pully.
it goes round the alternator and back to the water pump,
the belt with aircon goes from the alternator to the aircon then water pump.
i was using a vn v6 belt with no aircon till i bolted my sc14 blower on.

[defa]

the only reason i knew it was cos my uncle did a bearing or something on his AC and had to get a shorter belt so he could drive it..

[PaRaDoX]

yeah shorter belt for vn's with no aircon, already found out about that, around $30 i think

i will remove the condensor cheers intercooler will be happening

also see
http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/...300#post449300

ive got some good exhust piping in me back yard that im gonna cut up/get bent this week for the manifold, then get it all welded...

[greenfoam]

Hellllllllllllo
Go and by some 2 inch poly pipe tomorrow and then you can take your manifolds off and bend the poly pipe with a heat gun all around all the stuff you have to miss and make fake manifolds THEN take a picture of it, THEN chop it up into suitable bits that you can make with steel bends. Then make it

You might have to throw your poly pipe sections in the freezer so they dont go loose shape :P, or fill them with concrete, or something : )