Foam has a capture card:)

[greenfoam]

Little test run I made,
The pOWA of the HRT VP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR3wTQ3xwlU

I found the Holden Stunt team ripping burnouts in their VP's 5 litre executives too

[1991_Vn2nV]

Nice find mate

Speeds in excess of 290km/h

[greenfoam]

Yeah, that would be the last time a HRT car run a Holden 304 at Bathurst, they were running the Chev 302 in 93. I hope to find footage of Larry winning with the last 304 in 93 somewhere around here

[PaRaDoX]

lol foam you really are bored!!!! get out in the garage, weld yourself a turbo manifold and make your vn go faster!!!!

[FadeToBlack]

Thats awesome man, i'm too young to have ever seen the VP V8 supercars so that type of footage interests me..if you have any other good stuff do upload.

[greenfoam]

Yep I have heaps of footage of the VN's and VP's just so you know those are not Supercars they are standard Commodores, real Commodore shells real Commodore suspension, Group A Holden 304 V8. All factory goodness. That was the last year for the Group A rules before the Supercar rules started. I'll be uploading more over the next few weeks or so

[fu2]

yeah that was sweetastic......

how much has it changed in the last couple of years, its funny seeing a big race car then inside the same dash as ive got speaker grilles and all

[greenfoam]

Try this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lztDCNwQTXI

[1991_Vn2nV]

Man in stock 5L Execs...

Give us some VN stuf man Nuff VP crap

I remember seeing these guys at the Royal Adelaide Show all the time...Only a few years ago even!

[greenfoam]

I saw them at the Melbourne Show grounds going sick in VK's maybe

[immortality]

great footage. the humble 304 GRP A made awsome power, imagine what that engine could do in a modern chassis. he had to lift at the end of conrod straight, they hold it flat now cause the chassis handles better now. awsome footage. Larry proved the holden 304 when he beat all those chev engines in that great win of his. bring back GRP A racing.

[AirStrike]

I just love that for all the bullshit the modern V8 supercars can only go like an extra 10km/h max...........
AirStrike

[fazz1977]

Give us some VN stuf man Nuff VP crap

Blasphemy,

[Mr_Slim]

I just love that for all the bullshit the modern V8 supercars can only go like an extra 10km/h max...........
AirStrike

true, but they must be doing something right because the lap record was around 2.14sec in 94, and now its down at 2.07sec

but i'm losing interst in the V8 Supercars. Apart from the manufacturer of the engine and the shell, pretty much all the other parts are the same, or they are regulated to be the same. The owners have so little control now that all the cars are the same.

Bring back the showroom races. Unfortunately im only 19 and not old enough to remember them. My first Bathurst memory was Perkins coming from last to win the race in a VS. But from old footage, it would've been great to see the VN / VP juggernauts goin round!

[Mr_Slim]

By the way, thats a friggin awesome video. I could watch that all day. I love that they used an ACTUAL COMMODORE in the race. Watching the in-car footage im like "hey thats like my car!"

[FadeToBlack]

True...and stuff the VN videos more VP!

Seeing the actual dash inside the VP was weird...and the two wheel driving... haha never in my life could I have imagined a VP driving at that angle.

[pandaman]

bah VN/VP same thing, they both have that sweet sweet 304!

[walesy]

haha how kool would it be to to that ramp jump

[immortality]

I just love that for all the bullshit the modern V8 supercars can only go like an extra 10km/h max...........
AirStrike

true, i do beleive these times were set before they brought in the 7500rpm rev limits. these things use to scream at over 8000rpm i believe. unfortunatly the new supercars produce more mid range torque i beleive as they have amuch better lap time, some 7 sec a lap. still i recon bring back the GRP A spec for racing. then it would be a real contest. VE commodore, tricked out LS6/7 engine. that would kill Ford forever.

[Mr_Slim]

true, i do beleive these times were set before they brought in the 7500rpm rev limits. these things use to scream at over 8000rpm i believe. unfortunatly the new supercars produce more mid range torque i beleive as they have amuch better lap time, some 7 sec a lap. still i recon bring back the GRP A spec for racing. then it would be a real contest. VE commodore, tricked out LS6/7 engine. that would kill Ford forever.

and thats exactly the reason it won't come back. Holden is so dominant over Ford, the fact is they just make superior cars. Ford drivers can talk up their cars all they like, but the facts are that Holden make a better car, particularly for racing.

With such a gap between the 2, the racing becomes boring, and the fans go away, therefore so does the money. So what does the organisation do? The only thing they can do - regulate the rules, so Holden is not as dominant as they once were. At first, even when they did this Holden continued to dominate (7 consecutive Bathursts) it's only just been recently that the rules are so tight that the cars are exactly the same out there now.

V8 Supercars = boring

[greenfoam]

The funniest thing is that a Group A style VE with a weight of 1350kgs or so should be very much faster than the current supercars. But I think true production car racing with base model V8's (or turbos for the Fords) is the way to go, otherwise the factories get a little overly keen and make go fast specials, then you have more problems like in the early 70's

[pandaman]

The funniest this is that a Group A style VE with a weight of 1350kgs or so should be very much faster than the current supercars. But I think true production car racing with base model V8's (or turbos for the Fords) is the way to go, otherwise the factories get a little overly keen and make make go fast specials, then you have more problems like in the early 70's

What problem? The only problem was caused by a bunch of journalists who couldn't keep their big mouths shut. Production car racing would be sweet, it'd get the manufacturers back making competitive racing vehicles rather than the disturbing luxo barge trend that's been going on over the last decade or so.

[greenfoam]

Yeah it was Even Green or whatever his name was/is I think he died a while ago? but there was a problem really, those cars were waaaaay too fast for the road tyres of the day, a GTHO used to be able to smoke both wheels through all 4 gears from a standing start. That's a bit crazy for the average Joe. Gen III's don't have anywhere near that level of performance vs tyre grip, not even a 1/4 of it. I think you would see the luxo barge trend stop pretty fast if production car racing was a go too , you don't go around corners very fast in a 1800kg barge

[immortality]

try switching the traction control off on the genIII and get some 1970's quality tyres and see which smokes em better. may as well lay down some oval tracks and call it auzcar racing as thats all it will be in a couple of years. if GRP A racing was around i think the AU/BA woulda given the VX/VY/VZ a real good run for it's money but would be shite against the new VE. maybe it's time they release the rear suspension in V8 supercars to the manufacturers setup. both now run independent rears so i don't see that one would have ahuge advantage over the other( being a holden fan and knowing that he GM setup is better) i think this would be a good idea. having any car thats capable of 250kph is a silly idea for a road driven car unless you live in Europe that is......autobans

[greenfoam]

It's suprising how gutless the stock gen III's are! nothing near the grunt a GTHO has, I was filming a few different ones at a local burnout comp a couple of weeks ago and they were really struggling, some of them were running faster times than the stock/ish 5 liters because they have much more top end power although not much faster! I think the fastest 1/8th mile from a stock gen 3 on the day was VX clubsport that run 9.3?ish the better 5liters+exhaust were running 9.5's, aloooot of the gen III's couldn't do better than a 10 and a VN V6 can do that.

But on the burnout pad the 5 liters were owning them totally, night and day difference in low end torque, the 5 liters could let the revs die down then stomp on it and hit the limiter again when the gen III's tried the same move they just bogged down and went no where, all of them did the same thing. I know it's another story when they have a decent tune in them but still, stock for stock they aren't all that