climate control conversion

[roger05]

This has prob been asked heaps of times but how hard is it to put a calais climate control in to my SS, im guessing its not just a straight swap will i need a BCM change or some thing.
thanks

[budwizer]

there are two ways in doing it, firstly the hard way is to remove all the sensors from a working vn-vs hvac box, then insert them back into your current hvac box.
second way is to remove your complete hvac box (which you have to remove your whole dash) , and get a vq,vp, vn or vg climate hvac box. don't however get a vr,vs one as they are larger and you would have to change your whole firewall to get it in. then after you have changed your hvac box make a patch loom then get your aircon regassed. if you decide to go ahead with it let me know an i'll dig out my notes from when i did it and tell you in detail how to do it. took me about a day to do and now i have climate.

[88GreenVN]

This has prob been asked heaps of times but how hard is it to put a calais climate control in to my SS, im guessing its not just a straight swap will i need a BCM change or some thing.
thanks

The key is having a climate unit from the same year as your car or close to it. Get all the bits including loom from 1 car if you can. The whole dash removal is not that hard nor the heater removal. All the plugs for the loom are different do its steady progress to put it all back together. Slip a L3 dash and cruse control at the same time. It took me 4 days on my own from start to finish and very happy with the out come.

Point to remember if you use your own dash pad you must drill a hole for the sun sensor wire/plug while you have it out.

[1991_Vn2nV]

Im looking at bidding on a conversion kit out of a VQ Statesman on the net at the moment...

It has the module and stuff and the HVAC box... What else should the conversion come with? And can someone explain what to do once I take the dash out and replace my HVAC box with this one ?

[88GreenVN]

Im looking at bidding on a conversion kit out of a VQ Statesman on the net at the moment...

It has the module and stuff and the HVAC box... What else should the conversion come with? And can someone explain what to do once I take the dash out and replace my HVAC box with this one ?

U want the sun sensor and out side temp sensor.

Book the A/c for a regas and get new seals at the same time.

The heater box has its own loom so when you plug in the new loom it plugs in no probs. If you dont fit a CC loom have a good auto sparky near by.

Probable said it be 4 but if you use your dash pad you will need to drill a hole for the sun sensor plug to pass throu (middle of the top of your dash).

You probable have L3 dash and cruise control installed but if not worth doing at the same time as all the wires are in the VQ loom.

[budwizer]

If he has standard aircon then he won't have the plug n play loom for climate as well. he'll have to adapt the loom that comes with the climate hvac box. An as for the auto sparky well you really don't need that either. i have managed to also replace my standard vn exec hvac box with a vq hvac box works perfectly, what you'll have to do;

presuming you've got the vq hvac box in an your ready to wire it.

1st step is to solder the wires that go to the "a/c switch" together, from memory i think the colours of the wires were black, brown white, green yellow and green black. however you only want to join the green yellow and green black together, the brown white and black just put some electrical tape over them

2nd is to wire most of the wires on the adapter plug, the green one that the loom from the climate control box plugs into, exactly the same as the ones that connect the front door looms, to the wires easiest way is match the colours from it to colours in ur current loom.

3rd is connect 3 wires together from one of the plugs that went into ur manual air con fan speed controler, the colours that you want to jorn are the green yellow, pink white and light green.

4th go across to ur fuse box and look at Fuse C, should have the following 4 wires going into it, light green, red, black and violet yellow. you want to disconnect the black wire with still enough room to wire another wire to it. you want to run a wire from the green plug, that you wired before, from the yellow black wire terminal across to the fuse box an connect it to the black wire going into the fuse. (this controls fan speed of the climate system)

5th go across to your ecu which is behind the passenger side kick panel find a brown wire with a space either side of it an the a grey wire next to one of the spaces disconnect it with enough room to wire another wire on to run it across to the "green plug" and connect it to the brown wire there.

anymore question feel free to ask, an after climate in it looks really quite good.

[88GreenVN]

I had a melted fuse box (cheap fuse I reckon) with a fuse melted in solid so loom replacement was a must for me, so I got the whole box n dice. If you can work with wires n colours (I'm totally colour blind) sounds easy to wire the climate control up no probs.

[budwizer]

yeah its even easier to wire the level 3 cluster, that must suck being completely colour blind.

[88GreenVN]

yeah its even easier to wire the level 3 cluster, that must suck being completely colour blind.

Ruled out electrical work as a job....Became a welder.

The wires in a VN with all the little bits of colour on them... well I've got no hope.
With doing the climate control - the full loom - it was remove parts n put parts back in. All plug in no probs, so they got one thing right for me - they used diff plugs for all the connectivity for the loom

[1991_Vn2nV]

Ah cheers fella's. I figure I may as well do it now as my A/C needs to be regassed and fan switch broke... So I need to replace the controls anyway... Might as well do it with a climate control module

[churnit]

Keep bidding then its only got hours to go! (and you already know where to pick it up from )

[1991_Vn2nV]

Kept bidding and won

[Viper1523]

would this all work on a VR? i was told that the plug was taped into the loom. i have cruise control and my bcm is a 789 mid. can anyone tell me if this would work and if i need to change the bcm or anything. thank you

[Rav3n616]

changing ur bcm shouldent conflict with anything on a VR, you should be right