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    has anyone heard of this being possible ??? after i just replaced tranny, i wanna know exactly whats going in there.
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    you can get the gauges from auto shops, they wont tell you whats going on in the auto but they will tell you what temp its running at
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    thast all i want thankx
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    seeing as you have just spent a fortune on gettingyour box reco'd if i was you i would be investing in some extra protection for that box. i'd install a remote oil filter in your cooler lines that filters the same as the engine oil. the standard filter in the tranny is only ofthe screen type and isn't really going to keep small particles outo the transmission fluid. i've added a pic below of the remote filter i've got comming for the missus VS. as a bonus the remote filter mount has a 3rd 1/8" port thats perfect for a temp sender so you can mount your trans temp gauge. i'd also recomend fitting a external trans cooler ifyou haven't already done so
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    I'm planning on doing this but with a dual remote filters and thermostat.
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    heres a chart on tranny life expectancy and temperature. you can see the hotter it gets the quicker it will die. good reason for that big external cooler
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    Quote Originally Posted by immortality View Post
    heres a chart on tranny life expectancy and temperature. you can see the hotter it gets the quicker it will die. good reason for that big external cooler
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    Do you have a bigger copy of this graph?

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    yer i already installed a 6x12 inch cooler just behind the grille, i might look into that remote filter / temp guage setup thou, thankx for the info.
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    I would not recommend fitting a in-line Oil Filter. As the trans only sends a % of fluid to the cooler it would not filter all oil. But as the cooler only sends a % of oil through the cooler it has to cool as best as possible and a quickly as possible. at idle in park the cooler must flow 1 Liter every 15 seconds. If it flows 1 liter in 30 seconds there is a problem with the cooling system. You could install as many coolers on as your want but if the flow drops its a wast of time as the cool oil is not getting to the trans fast enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furious_8 View Post
    I would not recommend fitting a in-line Oil Filter. As the trans only sends a % of fluid to the cooler it would not filter all oil. But as the cooler only sends a % of oil through the cooler it has to cool as best as possible and a quickly as possible. at idle in park the cooler must flow 1 Liter every 15 seconds. If it flows 1 liter in 30 seconds there is a problem with the cooling system. You could install as many coolers on as your want but if the flow drops its a wast of time as the cool oil is not getting to the trans fast enough.
    i shouldn't see a problem with installing a remote filter, the filter is huge compared to the engine filter (fram ph8a, the same i believe as the ford V8 engine oil filter)so no doubt it has really good flow and ATF is much thinner then regular engine oil so it should flow well enough, i doubt it's going to reduce the flow by much at all through the cooler. even if only 1/4 the oil at any one time is flowing through the cooler as the system circulates the fluid it's all going to pass through the cooler/new filter at some stage and thats got to be better then just the screen filter in the tranny sump which really isn't going to remove jack from the fluid really
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    Unless theres is some sought of aftermarket screen filter that would do a better job than the factory fitted one ?
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    Would there be a difference in operating temps between a standard box compared to one with say a shiftkit and mods a like? Im just thinking about the pressures of the oil and the temps when your on the track ect compared to a standard box. Im not 100% sure about how an auto box pumps the oil but would it pump more oil to the cooler at higher rpm when needed most?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan355 View Post
    Would there be a difference in operating temps between a standard box compared to one with say a shiftkit and mods a like? Im just thinking about the pressures of the oil and the temps when your on the track ect compared to a standard box. Im not 100% sure about how an auto box pumps the oil but would it pump more oil to the cooler at higher rpm when needed most?
    i don't think the shift kit itself will increase fluid temps, it's probably more the fact that people who fit shift kits probably drivethere cars harder then most. shift kits actually improvethe life ofyour tranny as it spends less time slipping between gears etc. high stall converters etc i think create more of the heat . i know that TCI do a kit to improve your line pressure in the tranny by about 15% to incease the holding power etc. not sure about pump pressure and rpm, i'm only a novice when it comes to auto box's but i guess it must be like an engine oil pump in the respect that fluid pressure increases with rpm and there must be some sort of pressure relief to control the pressure etc, (pressure must be high at idle though otherwiseyou would never move ofthe line in 1st gear) i'm just guessing here though
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    Quote Originally Posted by immortality View Post
    i shouldn't see a problem with installing a remote filter, the filter is huge compared to the engine filter (fram ph8a, the same i believe as the ford V8 engine oil filter)so no doubt it has really good flow and ATF is much thinner then regular engine oil so it should flow well enough, i doubt it's going to reduce the flow by much at all through the cooler. even if only 1/4 the oil at any one time is flowing through the cooler as the system circulates the fluid it's all going to pass through the cooler/new filter at some stage and thats got to be better then just the screen filter in the tranny sump which really isn't going to remove jack from the fluid really
    When you install it check the flow after it and the cooler if you get 1L under 20seconds then it should be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan355 View Post
    Would there be a difference in operating temps between a standard box compared to one with say a shiftkit and mods a like? Im just thinking about the pressures of the oil and the temps when your on the track ect compared to a standard box. Im not 100% sure about how an auto box pumps the oil but would it pump more oil to the cooler at higher rpm when needed most?
    Well Shifts kits do and dont heat the oil. The kits open up lube holes and increase pressure so them make the trans use more oil from the pump. So that means less volume of oil that gets to the cooler. However the trans is lubed better which helps with oil life so its a catch 22. The heat come from the stall converter if you use a high stall then a cooler is a must aswell as good fluid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guss View Post
    Unless theres is some sought of aftermarket screen filter that would do a better job than the factory fitted one ?
    It would be better installing more magnets into the sump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furious_8 View Post
    It would be better installing more magnets into the sump.
    I've just noticed that the new filter that came with my TCI rebuild/shift kit isn't of the screen type, it's some sort of filter material
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    Try it but check the flow

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