wagon country pack....different diff ratio???

[SweetWagon]

hi, does anybody have some info on the country pack that came out on the the vn wagons? anyone driving the t5 can also help out, my wagon sits on about 2250@110kmh, is that normal on the t5 manual? i know the vn ran the 3.08 ratio diff, but did they use any other ratio? i also know my wagon originally came with the "country pack" which runs a higher suspension, thicker swaybars and a sump guard which my car still has, i know the diff is all original and the speedo is not out. so does anyone know anything about a possible diff ratio change from factory included in the "country pack"?

cheers

[Boonz]

country pack is only FE2, different bump stops, bigger brakes, all the diffs were 3.08 in VN's

[SweetWagon]

country pack is only FE2, different bump stops, bigger brakes, all the diffs were 3.08 in VN's

country pack = fe2? dont think so, greenfoam knows about the V5W (country pack suspension) option code. revised coil springs and shock absorbers,
increased ground clearance, thicker sway bars, sump & fuel tank protectors.

well i know they did use different diff ratios on these models:

(GM3) 3.45:1 - group a ss
(GU5) 3.23:1 - sv3800

i know my diff is a different ratio to do 2250@110kph, just wanting to know what ratio it is and if its part of the V5W option code.

cheers

[88GreenVN]

country pack = fe2? dont think so, greenfoam knows about the V5W (country pack suspension) option code. revised coil springs and shock absorbers,
increased ground clearance, thicker sway bars, sump & fuel tank protectors.

well i know they did use different diff ratios on these models:

(GM3) 3.45:1 - group a ss
(GU5) 3.23:1 - sv3800

i know my diff is a different ratio to do 2250@110kph, just wanting to know what ratio it is and if its part of the V5W option code.

cheers

The sales option for the VN

VN Commodore Specifications
In Detail
VN COMMODORE SPECIFICATIONS CHART:
*Source: Original Holden VN Commodore Sales Brochure.
V6 V8
Engine: Six cylinders in V configuration. OHV design with cross-flow cylinder heads.
Low friction technology. Multipoint fuel injection. High energy, distributorless , ignition fired by magnetic pulse from crankshaft, via computer. Triple coils. Engine Management System. Electric Cooling Fan. Eight cylinders in V configuration, OHV design/pushrods, two valves per cylinder, all cast-iron with cross-flow cylinder heads. Electronic Fuel Injection. Engine Management System.
Bore/Stroke (mm): 97x86 102x77
Displacement (cm3): 3791 4987
Compression Ratio: 8.5:1 8.4:1
Power Output (kW): 125kW (DIN) @ 4800rpm 165kW @ 4400rpm
Torque (Nm): 292Nm (DIN) @ 3200rpm 385Nm @ 3600rpm
Transmission: Manual: 5-Speed overdrive (Executive).
Auto: 4-Speed overdrive (Berlina) with fuel saving toque converter clutch. Manual: 5-Speed overdrive (Executive).
Auto: 4-Speed overdrive (Berlina) with fuel saving toque converter clutch.
Ratios:
1 st
2 nd
3 rd
4 th
5 th Manual
3.25:1
1.99:1
1.29:1
1.00:1
0.72:1 Auto
3.06:1
1.63:1
1.00:1
0.70:1 Manual
2.95:1
1.94:1
1.34:1
1.00:1
0.73:1 Auto
3.06:1
1.63:1
1.00:1
0.70:1
Drive: Rear through hypoid differential. Ratio 3.08:1 Rear through hypoid differential. Ratio 3.08:1
Fuel Economy:
(Litres/100kms): Manual: City: 11.5 Highway: 7.6
Auto: City: 12.5 Highway: 8.0 Manual: City: 14.5 Highway: 9.0
Auto: City: 15 Highway: 9.5
Brakes: Power assisted dual circuit 4 wheel discs - Front ventilated. Power assisted dual circuit 4 wheel discs - Front ventilated.
Wheels & Tyres : 6.00JJ x 14, Steel with P185/75 HR 14 Radials 6.0JJx15, Steel with 205/65 R15 95H Radials
Kerb Weights (kg):
Sedan
Wagon 1310
1349 1377
1492
Wheelbase (mm):
Sedan
Wagon 2731
2822 2731
2822
Track: Front/Rear 1451/1478 1451/1478
Turning Circle: 10.4m Kerb-to-Kerb 10.4m Kerb-to-Kerb
Steering: Variable ratio rack & pinion. Power assisted with variable assist. Variable ratio rack & pinion. Power assisted with variable assist.
Suspension:
Front:
Rear: Radial Tuned Suspension
MacPherson Strut, incorporating wet sleeve shock absorbers. Stabilizer Bar. Coil Springs
Trailing Arm with 5-link location. Panhard rod, Progressive Rate coil springs. Double acting shock absorbers, Stabilizer Bar Country Pack Option
Revised spring & shock abs. rate. Revised stabilizer bar diameter. Increased ground clearance. Sump guard.
Revised spring rate, larger shock absorbers. Revised stabilizer bar diameter, Increased Ground Clearance. Radial Tuned Suspension
MacPherson Strut, incorporating wet sleeve shock absorbers. Stabalizer Bar. Coil Springs
Trailing Arm with 5-link location. Panhard rod, Progressive Rate coil springs. Double acting shock absorbers, Stabalizer Bar Country Pack Option
Revised spring & shock abs. rate. Revised stabilizer bar diameter. Increased ground clearance. Sump guard.
Revised spring rate, larger shock absorbers. Revised stabilizer bar diameter, Increased Ground Clearance.
Fuel Tank Capacity (litres): Sedan : 63 - Wagon: 68 Sedan : 63 - Wagon: 68
Luggage Capacity (litres): Sedan : 443 - Wagon : 2491 (rear seat folded down). Sedan : 443 - Wagon : 2491 (rear seat folded down).
Towing Capacity (kg): Sedan : 500kg with standard towbar, 1200kg with load-equalizing trailer hitch and towbar package.
1590kg with body-side bracing package, trailer brakes, heavy duty towbar and equalizer hitch.
Wagon: 500kg with standard towbar, 1200kg with load-equalizing trailer hitch and towbar package.
1590kg with body-side bracing package, trailer brakes, heavy duty towbar and equalizer hitch. Sedan : 500kg with standard towbar, 1200kg with load-equalizing trailer hitch and towbar package.
1590kg with body-side bracing package, trailer brakes, heavy duty towbar and equalizer hitch.
Wagon: 500kg with standard towbar, 1200kg with load-equalizing trailer hitch and towbar package.
1590kg with body-side bracing package, trailer brakes, heavy duty towbar and equalizer hitch.
Dimensions (mm):
Sedan : Executive
Berlina
Wagon: Executive
Berlina Length
4850
4850
4896
4896 Width
1794
1802
1794
1802 Height
1403
1400
1422
1474 Clearance
143
142
141
139 Length
4850
4850
4896
4896 Width
1794
1802
1794
1802 Height
1403
1400
1422
1474 Clearance
143
142
141
139
*Please note: This is a reproduction of the original VN Commodore sales brochure.

[88GreenVN]

That didnt work so good sorry...but it has the country pack data's in it

[1991_Vn2nV]

Point is its a 3.08 ratio...

[defa]

i reckon my car revs at about the same at 110.

[SweetWagon]

i reckon my car revs at about the same at 110.

thanks, just what i wanted to hear.

does anybody know what diff ratio a vy s pack manual runs?? the 5th ratio on the getrag is pretty similar to the t5, but my mates vy revs alot lower, around 1800@110kph. thanks for the info so far.

[1991_Vn2nV]

The VY S Pack runs a 3.08 ratio as well.

You should be measuring the revs at 100 which is what everyone else does.... makes it a little easier for everyone else to give you a rough idea.

[SweetWagon]

ok cheers for that. mine revs at about 2000~2100 at 100kms. i wonder why my mates vy s pack revs alot lower at the same speed? i have the 5th gear (overdrive) ratios for both getrag and t5:

getrag: 0.82
t5:0.72

so if the vy has the same diff ratio wouldnt it be revving more than me??

just another question, what are the auto guys revving at 100? i assume they run a lockup torque converter, the overdrive is a 0.7 ratio, so combined with the 3.08 diff they shouldnt be revving much less than the manual?

cheers

[1991_Vn2nV]

Around 1900rpm at 100km/h in the Auto. Should be roughly the same for manual.

I went from 1900rpm at 100km/h to about 2400rpm with the 3.9's

[90VN55]

yea mine is about 18-1900rpm

[padrickz88]

mines auto and i rev at 1900 at 100kph....damn i need a manual haha btw vn2nv, while cruising at 2400 is it noticable? is it noisy? bla bla bla the usual questions?

[1991_Vn2nV]

Its a tad noisey but I always have the sound system on fairly loud anyway so I dont notice it... But it does drone now at highway speeds. Nothing to worry about unless you wanna travel interstate or something in which case it would give you the ****s...

[Soybean]

Sorry to hijack the thread but does anybody else have trouble with,spinning up the back wheels in the rain?? i mean not wanting to do it, but it does it anyway.
i dunno whether its something to do with it being manual or its the crappy roads of newcastle/charlestown that i frequent.
i somehow managed to spin the wheels in 3rd at 50km/h last night only gave it a little bit.
and im running 225/55 tyres so its not the tires.
the only things done to it are: removal of bellmouth, pod, 2.5 inch redback.
and it does about 1800 at 100km/h.

[1991_Vn2nV]

Wheelspin is easy in the wet, If I floored it at 60 my car would spin the wheels (kicking back a gear)... But in 3rd gear on a manual, not changing back that sounds odd if it was in a straight line

[coolvxss]

My manual cant spin in 3rd unless im going around a corner. In 3rd at 50 my cars pretty doughy. Not enough revs when im only doin 50 in 3rd. 65+ and its starts getting better.

[immortality]

my VN t5 pulls between 1800-1900rpm @ 100km/h watch out for whitelines in the wet, they aid loss of traction. i normally go up one gear whe ndriving in the wet to keep the revs down and maintain traction etc. i just put my standard wheels back on and there bloody dangerous after having the bigger 17" bridgestones on, it's like driving on marbles now in the rain. dangerous

[SweetWagon]

Sorry to hijack the thread but does anybody else have trouble with,spinning up the back wheels in the rain?? i mean not wanting to do it, but it does it anyway.
i dunno whether its something to do with it being manual or its the crappy roads of newcastle/charlestown that i frequent.
i somehow managed to spin the wheels in 3rd at 50km/h last night only gave it a little bit.
and im running 225/55 tyres so its not the tires.
the only things done to it are: removal of bellmouth, pod, 2.5 inch redback.
and it does about 1800 at 100km/h.

is that a 3.08 ratio diff aswell? i wonder why mine revs 200 more? its still got 15" rims, maybe i should get some bigger ones i dont think mine could wheelspin in 3rd either. you got me curious now

[Boonz]

maybe its just your tacho thats out....

[88GreenVN]

My wagon is around 1800 at 100kms (3.08) diff

[Soybean]

i dunno, it did it again last night on the same road but at 60 so it must be something on the road one of the councils dodgy road repairs or somethin that was made worse by the rain.
but im puzzled.