Pod Filters

[mulligan-can]

Ok, whats the point of a pod filter? I mean it supposed to give higher air flow right? But its mounted under the bonnet? With lots of hot air?

Given the above wouldn't a CAI + Kn'N filter be a better idea to increase air flow?

Cooler air and a low resistance filter better then low resistance filter and hot air?

I'm confused sorry. Some people are "OMGOMGOMG dude get yourself a pod filter its like teh pwnage man its soooo cool" and others "Mate there is no point to a pod filter mounted under the hood and they're illegal anyway"

Help please?

[JD]

Pod's are better in conjuction with CAI's but you only get about 5HP max out of it.
so its really only there to look good.

[pandaman]

Some people are "OMGOMGOMG dude get yourself a pod filter its like teh pwnage man its soooo cool"

These people are morons

and others "Mate there is no point to a pod filter mounted under the hood and they're illegal anyway"

These people are sensible but lack imagination. The ideal and 100% legal way to make use of the larger surface area of a pod filter is to have it boxed with a CAI directing air into the box. Voila, best of both worlds.

[mulligan-can]

Oh. Ok. Cool. So, realistically there isn't much point to a CAI + pod filter or even a normal filter in a N/A engine anyway?

Is there actually any gain in efficency or power by having a CAI?

[pandaman]

Oh. Ok. Cool. So, realistically there isn't much point to a CAI + pod filter or even a normal filter in a N/A engine anyway?

Is there actually any gain in efficency or power by having a CAI?

There is some point, only question is whether it's noticeable. A VS style CAI is dirt cheap and dead easy to fit anyway so there's no reason not to. But once you get into boxed pods and bigarse aftermarket CAI's that run into hundreds of dollars you've really gotta ask if it's good bang for your buck.

[mulligan-can]

Haha, yeah, I agree. I was thinking at the price why not get a CAI and a Kn'N filter. I wouldn't expect it to make a noticable difference though. Ok, thanks for the help

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

Hi flow filter teamed with a CAI will improve throttle response. It will not give any noticeable increase in power unless you change your exhaust system.

[porscheboxster]

I've got a finer filter pod in my SV Clubsport. I know many have condemn pod since it draws in the hot engine bay, but thats the compromise for that Great sucking sound

[Calais_5sp]

I use both (not at the same time). CAI for summer and put the pod back on for the cooler months. Put the pod back on today and it has made a noticable difference up and above 3500/4000revs, just seems to acelerate a little quicker.

[dufus]

I myself have a pod, mainly because i have a LPG car and somthing is in the way of the piping for the CAI, and yes it has made a difference in throtle responce. The setup shown in this link Pod Filter with CAI on a VR/VS seems to be the ideal setup, its for a VR or VS so i dont know wether or not it will work with a VN or VP but im sure someone can shed some light on that.

[5LUTV6]

i have a V6 with exhaust/V8 throttle body and pod although my pod is boxed off from the rest of the underbonnet heat. Would have to say that the pod gives great response on cold nights, car actually does stuff it wouldnt normally do! but on a warmer day no intake is going to work a treat. Dont see what the big fuss is about over the radiator style intakes as the radiator is almost at boiling point most of the time. Id say the perfect set up would be a sealed off pod with some kind of cold air feed.

[PaRaDoX]

i think its all a waste of time, why spend $200 for a possible 5hp gain??? thats like 2-3kw @ wheels, really gonna notice that?

[mulligan-can]

Well... it does all add up in the end do a hundred 2-3rkrw mods and your turning an extra 200-300rwkw

[samuels]

Ok, whats the point of a pod filter? I mean it supposed to give higher air flow right? But its mounted under the bonnet? With lots of hot air?

Given the above wouldn't a CAI + Kn'N filter be a better idea to increase air flow?

Cooler air and a low resistance filter better then low resistance filter and hot air?

I'm confused sorry. Some people are "OMGOMGOMG dude get yourself a pod filter its like teh pwnage man its soooo cool" and others "Mate there is no point to a pod filter mounted under the hood and they're illegal anyway"

Help please?

don't waste your time or more importantly waste your money,they are useless,you achieve engine wear quicker by installing pods...
if your after maximum gains go cold air intake(up to 7Kw gain)...shop around you will find one in a price range that suits your wallet
people just like the pods because of the whooooosh noise they make when they are suking in finer particles of dirt

[samuels]

i have a V6 with exhaust/V8 throttle body and pod although my pod is boxed off from the rest of the underbonnet heat. Would have to say that the pod gives great response on cold nights, car actually does stuff it wouldnt normally do! but on a warmer day no intake is going to work a treat. Dont see what the big fuss is about over the radiator style intakes as the radiator is almost at boiling point most of the time. Id say the perfect set up would be a sealed off pod with some kind of cold air feed.

this set up you are talking about is situated at top of radiator,which believe it or not, is the coolest part of the radiator,you are also getting a rush of cold air thru the gap of your bonnet and thru your grille,you will also find cold air intakes are mounted behind a headlight

[samuels]

There is some point, only question is whether it's noticeable. A VS style CAI is dirt cheap and dead easy to fit anyway so there's no reason not to. But once you get into boxed pods and bigarse aftermarket CAI's that run into hundreds of dollars you've really gotta ask if it's good bang for your buck.

hey dude ...sorry i mis- read your post,but you still get the general idea as what i feel towards pods .
with the right exhaust system and a pretty well tuned memcal.CAI improves your K'ws dramatically....CAI alone can give you up to 7 K'ws alone

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

Well... it does all add up in the end do a hundred 2-3rkrw mods and your turning an extra 200-300rwkw

No it doesn't. Some mods will add, some will take away. If you do 5 things that add 2 kW to a stock engine you will not gain 10 kW, you will only gain 2 or 3 as each mod increases the stock kW. Also some mods will reduce kW when combined with other mods. For example, if you fit roller rockers to a stock engine, you will gain maybe 10 kW, add extractors and exhaust this rises to about 20 kW, then fit a high lift cam and you lose kW because the rockers and the cam don't work well together unless you get a cam custom ground to match your rockers. There are so many variables to consider before slapping on every part you can think of.

[pandaman]

hey dude ...sorry i mis- read your post,but you still get the general idea as what i feel towards pods .
with the right exhaust system and a pretty well tuned memcal.CAI improves your K'ws dramatically....CAI alone can give you up to 7 K'ws alone

I have no doubt it will make an improvement. I've got a VS CAI on mine. As for the pod thing, well I've read a few articles where back to back testing was done, with various panel and pod filters, and one really good one where the guy actually measured flow rates back to back. Bottom line was that a good quality panel filter provides bugger all resistance to airflow really. So I'm inclined to agree with you on the lack of any performance benefit. However, one of these days I might try modding the airbox to box a pod anyway, just for kicks and to see if I can get some fat induction noise happening. Mate of mine has a 4AG in an old celica, running twin webber 45's with foam pods. That thing has some insane induction roar happening.

[samuels]

I have no doubt it will make an improvement. I've got a VS CAI on mine. As for the pod thing, well I've read a few articles where back to back testing was done, with various panel and pod filters, and one really good one where the guy actually measured flow rates back to back. Bottom line was that a good quality panel filter provides bugger all resistance to airflow really. So I'm inclined to agree with you on the lack of any performance benefit. However, one of these days I might try modding the airbox to box a pod anyway, just for kicks and to see if I can get some fat induction noise happening. Mate of mine has a 4AG in an old celica, running twin webber 45's with foam pods. That thing has some insane induction roar happening.

yes i have to agree with you on that one,like i said i don't believe in pods just plonked on the end of the standard air induction pipe "cringes".. but your idea of modifyingthe air box is a good solution,but i'd still be inclined to use standard filter over pod as well for safeguard
once again "cringes"...lol damn pods

[timbra_88]

Well we all understand the base principal behind all of this. Less restriction on air flow is better as more air goes into your motor. The colder the temperature of the intake air is better because its more dense, thus allowing more air into the engine's combustion chamber. So from my understanding of this, a good cold air induction setup to a BOXED hi-flow filter, whether it be a pod or a K'N filter, will benefit you the most as its letting COLD UNRESTRICTED air into the motor. This will probly be argued by a thousand people on this site and thats fine, but thats what im going to do to my V6 because I believe it will make a difference, It may not necessarily be a difference you will notice, but its a difference none the less..

Tim

[greenfoam]

"Cold air is pOWA" get it inta ya