off to regency :(

[ben k]

went through a license check last week and after recieving a $76 for not having my P's card on me i explained to the cop what i thought of the situation....bull****
he wasn't too impressed with the manner of my response so turned his attention towards the car...got defected for having the 18's on, steering wheel wasn't attached due to one of the plastic clips behiond being broken and was in the midst of replacing it...horn was fully functionable and i showed him but still got done for it...annnd gas tank not being pressure tested in the last 10 years which is fair enough he did me for.

so just wondering some general things I should check over on my car before going through regency so hopefully only have to make the 1 visit

the car is a vp calais

cheers
ben

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

Make sure everything that has a button or a switch works. There are no oil leaks. All your seat belts are in good nick, ie no frayed edges. It drives straight when you let go of the steering wheel, the wheel is straight and it doesn't vibrate. Your handbrake shouldn't come up any more than 6 clicks. Can't think of anything else.

[greenfoam]

Make sure the Steering wheel rubber cover doesnt move over the insides and be sure the rear parcel shelf hasn't been cut out for bigger speakers. I'm not convinced that 18 inch wheels are illegal myself and if that happened to me I'd be talking that one above the cops and above the states head (especialy on a VP calais that probably has IRS)

[ben k]

yea sure has IRS

Rims can only be 2" larger than the wheels they came with
the old internationals on them are 15's

[greenfoam]

Ok lets play by the old rules for a moment, which by the way don't exsists anymore. In the old rules you can argue that you are allowed 2 inches over the largest wheel offered by the Manufacturer on that model. HSV VP's run 17x8's and depending on your definition of Model and Manufacturer, in this case it's defiantly VP and Holden then because HSV are not a car Manufacturer by definition of the word (to turn raw materials into a product). So yeah you can't loose that argument since other VP's with the exact same suspension as yours passed the Australian design rules with a 17 inch rim a loooooooooong time ago.

Now if you are going by the new rules that came into place on the 1st of Januray 2006 then 18 inch rims and some ridiculous massive wide tyres and well withing the legal range. VN2NV has been having some wars with transport South Australia about this and they don't seem willing to accept the new federal laws. But in other states you can just say to the out of date cops, hey man these rules are long gone and they go and make a phone call and then let you go once they know the new rules

[1991_Vn2nV]

Mate they check everything for 40 minutes.

They go under the whole of your car, they test window tint, test ALL lights, heater, demisters, buttons, steering wheel and horn. They put you on the rollers to test your brakes etc., they test your seat belts, check the thing on the fuel tank nozzle (the bit that meant to flip back). They check for ANY leaks what so ever...ANY rust what so ever...

Good luck. Hopefully you get a nice inspector, not a c*nt.

[ben k]

yea farkkk

do you have to pay the (i think) $130 everytime you go through or only the once?

thanks for the info

[V-ahhh]

its everytime i beleive

[daron]

79 bux not 130

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

I'm glad I live in WA. None of this BS we have to go through. $45 inspection gets you 2 goes, and as long as everything works and there is no structural rust we get passed. No RWC's, no yearly inspections, one off purchase for personalised plates then std rego costs every time.

[NORTI]

also, I would suggest being nice to them, even if you think their decision is crap, try going about it in a mature matter.

[vt1538]

Ok lets play by the old rules for a moment, which by the way don't exsists anymore. In the old rules you can argue that you are allowed 2 inches over the largest wheel offered by the Manufacturer on that model. HSV VP's run 17x8's and depending on your definition of Model and Manufacturer, in this case it's defiantly VP and Holden then because HSV are not a car Manufacturer by definition of the word (to turn raw materials into a product). So yeah you can't loose that argument since other VP's with the exact same suspension as yours passed the Australian design rules with a 17 inch rim a loooooooooong time ago.

Now if you are going by the new rules that came into place on the 1st of Januray 2006 then 18 inch rims and some ridiculous massive wide tyres and well withing the legal range. VN2NV has been having some wars with transport South Australia about this and they don't seem willing to accept the new federal laws. But in other states you can just say to the out of date cops, hey man these rules are long gone and they go and make a phone call and then let you go once they know the new rules

I have been an accredited inspector here for seven years & still have not recieved any notification that the 50mm rule for rims has been changed. As far as I know it is up to the individual state still to decide on what changes they will make to the regulations.
This is what happens when you answer back I suppose & hopefully next time you will respond nicely.
BTW it goes from the individual vehicles tyre placard not what some other models run.

[STEALTHY™]

Its $79 the first time, and if it doesn't pass, its something like 35 then next times.

Unless you get a decent inspector, and you have time to go back the same day, he didn't charge me any extra, after getting the zorst changed

[Dan355]

OK from my experiance: Make sure EVERYTHING works! They check everything from the headlights to the tail lights. Book it in for a friday arvo, 3pm is best Look at the form as they right faults down. If you have any doupts get them to show you and ask questions without coming across as a smart arse. Make sure you understand what needs to be fixed as they are not very detailed in their explanation of faults. Dont sit down, walk around with the inspector(s) as they check the car.
The more questions you ask the more apparent it is to you on how much they dont know lol especialy the young apprentices

[1991_Vn2nV]

I have been an accredited inspector here for seven years & still have not recieved any notification that the 50mm rule for rims has been changed. As far as I know it is up to the individual state still to decide on what changes they will make to the regulations.
This is what happens when you answer back I suppose & hopefully next time you will respond nicely.
BTW it goes from the individual vehicles tyre placard not what some other models run.

It is not in the ADR's any longer and hasnt been since January 1st 2005... Every other state in Australia has changed their guidelines and no longer go by the 2 inch law.

Why the f*** should we be the only state in Australia restricted by this ridiculous law simple because Transport SA are too damn lazy to get off their ass and edit a paragraph in their guidelines? Updating their guidelines once every 20 years is NOT good enough.

[VNCalais98K]

Funny that they'd even pick up the 18's.. prolly cos its lowered they look tougher... i got the 18s and looks smaller cos i never lowered the car.

Oh well... i drive like a grandpa, i doubt ill get booked. (knocks wood)

I guess I better get my heater fixed just in case....

[vt1538]

It is not in the ADR's any longer and hasnt been since January 1st 2005... Every other state in Australia has changed their guidelines and no longer go by the 2 inch law.

Why the f*** should we be the only state in Australia restricted by this ridiculous law simple because Transport SA are too damn lazy to get off their ass and edit a paragraph in their guidelines? Updating their guidelines once every 20 years is NOT good enough.

First up an ADR is a baseline for the manufacturing of vehicles. These guidelines must be met by the manufacturer to enable registration hence the compliance plate on the vehicle. Once a vehicle has been modified beyond the scope of its ADR's then it no longer meets its compliance plate & then is defectable.
This is why you get a car engineered. Companies like HSV have the vehicles engineered to run the larger wheels so they still make compliance.
Secondly you are not the only state that may not allow this. I know in my latest update we are still having to use the 50mm rule.

[1991_Vn2nV]

The state guidelines are based upon the ADR's, and when the guidelines refer to the ADR (ADR 24: Tyre and Rim Selection) then I dont consider the guidelines correct. The guidelines refer to ADR 24 3 times, despite the fact it no longer exists.

Guidelines cannot say according to ADR 24 when that ADR no longer exists. This is not excusable and I would argue it to the death with any policeman or inspector who attemped to defect me for it because its quite simply b/s.

[fnlow1]

This wasn't down the bay a while back? I might have seen you. All I wanna say is fcukin copz

[ben k]

haha yer sure was mate...sunday arvo by the boys on bikes
probably a stupid way to go but thats the quickest way home when dropping my g/f off, i live on one side of jetty rd she lives on the other
were u in ur calais? if so i saw you as well mate

should look at this defect as a positive thing car will be up to scratch by the time this is all over and done with...

[-UNKNOWN-]

Make sure your window washer works too. Its the second thing they check. Also make sure your heater on your front window works too.

[VNCalais98K]

I avoid jetty road like the plague in my own car...
I seen soooooooooooooooo many people getting done they always set up the defect station down near colley road.
Although if i ever get pulled over i turn chicken**** so i havent been hassled yet.
Haha... got done in my nissan for 94/50zone and had a chat with officer about my 2 15inch subs and plans etc.... haha. (he didnt mention the 17inch wheels, exhaust, or turbo conversion....) but i know my luck will run out eventually...

[Clinster]

If your car was built to comply to with ADR 24 then you will need to still comply with the 2inch/50mm rule still. Just becasue it has been removed doesnt mean to say that you can do whatever.
So they (Regency) go by what ever is the largest tyre rim combo on your tyre placard on your car. So if you have an VS exec and the largest is 15s then you can go to 17s, if you have a VS GTS HSV then your placard will say 17s therefore you can have 19s.
If you have noticed the tyre placard on a Omega VE you will notice that they have the full range of tyre sizes right up to 19s from memory.

The Inspection fee for the 1st time is $74.50 and if you need a recheck its $55.00.
Oh and a tip on getting thru 1st time.... Pass the attitide test......

[vt1538]

If your car was built to comply to with ADR 24 then you will need to still comply with the 2inch/50mm rule still. Just becasue it has been removed doesnt mean to say that you can do whatever.
So they (Regency) go by what ever is the largest tyre rim combo on your tyre placard on your car. So if you have an VS exec and the largest is 15s then you can go to 17s, if you have a VS GTS HSV then your placard will say 17s therefore you can have 19s.
If you have noticed the tyre placard on a Omega VE you will notice that they have the full range of tyre sizes right up to 19s from memory.

The Inspection fee for the 1st time is $74.50 and if you need a recheck its $55.00.
Oh and a tip on getting thru 1st time.... Pass the attitide test......

Thats the easiest way to explain it. Good post Clinster.

[STEALTHY™]

If your car was built to comply to with ADR 24 then you will need to still comply with the 2inch/50mm rule still. Just becasue it has been removed doesnt mean to say that you can do whatever.
So they (Regency) go by what ever is the largest tyre rim combo on your tyre placard on your car. So if you have an VS exec and the largest is 15s then you can go to 17s, if you have a VS GTS HSV then your placard will say 17s therefore you can have 19s.
If you have noticed the tyre placard on a Omega VE you will notice that they have the full range of tyre sizes right up to 19s from memory.

The Inspection fee for the 1st time is $74.50 and if you need a recheck its $55.00.
Oh and a tip on getting thru 1st time.... Pass the attitide test......

Are you an inspector there? Or have just been there enough to know the ropes?

I was told they rarely let a car pass the first time, all 3 of mine i've been with have had to go back a second time, and not once did i take the car (so the attitude test doesn't really apply).

Most of the inspectors are morons. The one who checked my VP redefected it cause it needed 3 (yes 3) child restraints.


Also with my other car, the exhaust was 1db too loud. like seriously, ever heard a harley, my car on the rev limiter still wouldn't be able to be heard over a harley.